Question about God

Ill be honest, im not Christian, i dont know what I am. My mother is catholic and my father jewish. I dont consider a there to be GOD, but I do believe in a higher power. This higher power doesnt have to be Allah, it doesnt have to be god, its just a higher power. There's plenty of religions out there, and for all we know the only people who know of the *REAL* one are a tribe in south america.

Question, IF god exists, can god create something so great and so powerful that god himself/herself cannot destroy? Im sure this has been asked already, im wondering what some responses will be. Discuss

You can create a rock? i think you meant something else.

but seriously, we can build things beyond our control as we are not God. God can certainly do anything that he desires with his creation. If God is all powerful than certainly he can not build a rock that he can not lift, for if he is all powerful then there is nothing that he can not lift.

Actually, your not quite looking at this `God making a rock he can't lift' thing right. In a sense, God has already done this: Sin is totally beyond Gods ability to control, except in very limited ways, and it was Gods creations that `created' sin.

Brother Thinker,
But it is in God's ability to control sin. He does in the end, because every knee will bow and satan will be put in his place. But for now, the prince of this world has his time, and it is only so because God allows it to be. God gave us free will, and so he allowed us to chose the path we did because He loves us and is not going to force us to love Him back.

Halruaa,
I am sorry to hear of the division in your family. Maybe that is in part why you have not become Christian yet. Being a Catholic, your mother is obligated to raise her children in the Catholic faith, and I assume she has not. I would implore you to take some time out of your life and learn more about Christianity, because there is a reason that it is the most popular and the most despised religion. It is God's religion, and there will be division among people. If you take some time, you will see what sets apart Christianity from all other religions. Muslims allow killing, and muhamad himself said that at times, he didn't know whether he was talking to God or satan. Bhuddism and other eastern religions have nice ideas and seem harmonious enough, but when investigated further, it becomes evident that it is manmade. But the teachings of Christ defy every part of our human nature that is wrong. There is nothing impure about it. I would suggest you not only pick up a bible and read it, but also pick up "Mere Christianity" by C.S. Lewis. That is a great book which basically takes logic and reasoning and applies it to validating Christianity..and it's easy and good reading to boot.

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Salaam Halruaa. Hehe I love this question.

God isn't part of His creation. Whatever He creates is distinct and seperate from Him. He can create whatever He wills. But since He's outside of this creation, He always holds it in His Majesty.

Not to say that God is distant from His Creation, indeed He's very close. But God is far and beyond anything He creates. So no matter how heavy/powerful/big a thing is, He is always greater.

There is no god but God. And to Allah have I willingly submitted myself.

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And the Almighty knows best.
Salaam, Shalom, Shlomo and Peace be upon you.

And among His Signs is the creation of the Heavens and the Earth,
and the difference of your languages and colors.
Verily, in that are Signs for people of sound knowledge.
(Noble Qur'an: The Romans 30:22)

*gasp*gasp*die*

How could you say such a thing?! I dunno if He would appreciate having things said about Him of which we know nothing.

God has control over EVERYTHING. How can sin be beyond His control?! Yet the stars, planets, bees, atoms and everything else are subject to Him, but not sin? Come on! If He willed, He could've made all of mankind into one people, without sin. But this life is a test, it's not Paradise, we must struggle and strive through the dirt first.

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And the Almighty knows best.
Salaam, Shalom, Shlomo and Peace be upon you.

And among His Signs is the creation of the Heavens and the Earth,
and the difference of your languages and colors.
Verily, in that are Signs for people of sound knowledge.
(Noble Qur'an: The Romans 30:22)

Question, IF god exists, can god create something so great and so powerful that god himself/herself cannot destroy?

just in response to this question, it is a logical fallacy. It is not in God's nature to do such a thing, therfore there is no point in speculating with 'what ifs' here. It is human reasoning applied to God, which falls under its own weight.

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The question cannot be answered because it is nonsensical. It's like asking, "if God armwrestled himself, who would win?". You treat God as if he were two beings, competing against each other, instead of just One. It just doesn't make sense at all.

Also, yes, God is very powerful. But that doesn't mean he has the ability to just do anything. He cannot make square circles for instance. You have to really think about whether the question you may ask make any sense. I hope this helps.

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The question you ask has been asked in numerous forms, i.e., can He make a rock He cannot lift, etc. Anyway, the answer to this is no. However, a better answer to this is, why would He want to? God is not capricious. He is first causal in all things that He does. He wastes no effort. God is not a non-sensical Being. Though He dictates the reality of all things it is pointless to question, at least in a desire for real theological discourse, the reason God can't do something that He would never desire to do anyway.

God bless

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WHAAAAAT???!!!!! Where in the world did you read this???!!!!

If there is one single particle in all of creation that God could not control then we could not be sure of anything that He promised because that one little thing could be the proverbial "fly in the ointment."

Please, whoever read this post by Thinker, take heart that the Lord is sovereign over everything. That includes our sin. That includes satan. Everything is within the control of the Lord.

Seriously, where in the world did you come up with this???!!!

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"Apart from an acknowledgment of God's absolute, all encompassing sovereignty, there can be no true thanksgiving, praise, or childlike dependence upon Him. What a gracious thing that He has opened our eyes to behold with wonder His works. As John the Baptist said, a man can receive nothing except it be given him from heaven. How gracious He has been to us!" - One of my beloved brothers in the Lord Jesus