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Originally Posted by Gary777
If David Blaine is demonic, then what about this Criss Angel dude? Man, he looks like a demon. And he did a great levitation trick where he made a girl float, right there on the street. BUT...its was on tv! and it can be done easily on camera, but it was a great show. THe other card tricks he and blaine does, i can do with my svengali cards i have here. Its just a trick, nothing more, but theses guys are good at it.

I actually heard preachers preach on the demonic powers of David Copperfield a few years ago, because he could remove the Statue of Liberty and make elephants disappear, and walk trough the chineese wall etc. So they said he used occult powers to "push" things in to the spirit world etc. THAT is a bit embarressing for us belivers, 'cause they all are known magic tricks with a simple explanation. The world already think we are stupid...we do not need to put unneccesary wood to the fire.
How did copperfield do the statueofliberty/elephant dissapearance, and the walking through the wall of china?
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HI, proximo

When when copperfield made the statue "disapear", why was it only the 20-30 people on the nearby platform that saw it happen, and no one else in New YorK. It's an easy trick done with payed audience, duplicate scenes. I've seen a dude do it with a space shuttle, and another dude did it with a military tank. It's a really easy camera trick when you know how its done. You could make the mount everest "disapear" just as easy, but only on camera. Same thing with the china wall. He could not do it without a camera, several sheets covering up him "going trough" etc. The day you see any of this guys do it live, with no sheets covering nothing, then you should be surprised. The elephant trick, is just an illusion that happens when you look at this special made box they you use from a special angel. The elephant is there, but behind a wall. The box you look inside is not that deep as it seems, it still has room for an elephant behind the inner wall. Basicly we are extremly easy to fool, and most magic tricks are easy to do when you know how.
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Hi

I remember a tv show with a guy who give up most magic trick secrets, it was using high-tech equipments but look so real, but it's still magic trick. Here in Quebec we have Alain Choquette and it's a plain ordinary guy who use very high tech equipments to perform stunning magic trick.

That don't mean that there is no real sorcerer, the Antichrist are a real sorcerer. But today there's more stage magic that real sorcery in our world (the end times events may change that).

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David Blaine is the Devil's Helper?

I just ran across this group and noticed this thread so I had to join and post. Dear Soul Sister Claire, if you are really that naive of a person, I truly feel sorry for you. First off, let me explain that what he's doing is called a Balducci Levitation. He stands on the tip-toes of one foot. The audience must be placed 8 to 10 feet away at an exact 45 degree angle to the rear of the foot that's not "levitating". Then, it looks real and he films audience's reactions. Then, for his TV show, he has a wire attached to his belt, gets pulled up in the air by a big see-saw, and edits in the audience's reactions. But since you obviously believe everything you see and hear that also explains your literal interpretation of the bible. Another thing only a naive baffoon could possibly do. So, just for your info here's a little something you might want to research: In about year 382 Constantine the Emperor of Rome declared Christianity the official religion of Rome. This was done as a measure to squash an impending civil war between the Christians and the Pegans living there. He re-wrote the bible omitting all but the Gospels that catered to his master plan. His idea was to meld the 2 religious groups that were at odds into a single harmonious unit under Rome. He restructured Christianity and made Sunday the Sabbath. The day was already revered by the pagans as a day to worship the sun. He then made Jesus' birthday on December 25, an already recognized holiday for the birthdays of several other pagan gods. All this was to enable the pagans to go on doing what they were doing without changing their ways too much.

After this, all versions of the Christian bible ( of which there were about 200) were systematically siezed and destroyed and anyone claiming anything different than what was in Constantiene's bible was considered a traitor and a heritic and you can imagine what that means in ancient Rome. Here's the real kicker, up until that point Jesus was never considered to be the Son of God. He was revered by his followers as a prophet. A hand of God yes, but the Son of, no. The deification of Christ was VOTED on by a Roman council and since making Jesus the Son of God would help to solidify the new official Religion, and make Christianity the only and indisputable acceptable means to worship the one true God, they voted yes, and so it was.

So the bible you read was basically outlined by Romans and then of course edited numerous times by the Catholic church in later years as a means to control the masses during the monopoly on education by the church durring the middle ages. Therefore, the bible is nothing more than an archaic political agenda written and ammended by power hungry sinners and most definately not the work of God. Nothing in it can be taken seriously much less literally.

P.S. I am a devout Catholic. I believe in God and I go to church. However, organized Religion merely acts as a framework for me to build my own personal relationship with God. I'm not telling you how to worship but I feel obligated to say something when I see someone easily blinded by simple smokescreens in life. And Christianity, along with David Blaine are simple "pull my finger gags".
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I just ran across this group and noticed this thread so I had to join and post. Dear Soul Sister Claire, if you are really that naive of a person
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I agree with your post.

There is a reason that we're not to be fooled by magic, which isn't really magic at all, but it does affect those that "believe what they see". And God dosen't want us to be deceived at all. They do this to make themselves of some importance and to appear to possess powers, that they don't possess at all, and make alot of money doing it, and deceive alot of people.

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After this, all versions of the Christian bible ( of which there were about 200) were systematically siezed and destroyed and anyone claiming anything different than what was in Constantiene's bible was considered a traitor and a heritic and you can imagine what that means in ancient Rome. Here's the real kicker, up until that point Jesus was never considered to be the Son of God. He was revered by his followers as a prophet. A hand of God yes, but the Son of, no. The deification of Christ was VOTED on by a Roman council and since making Jesus the Son of God would help to solidify the new official Religion, and make Christianity the only and indisputable acceptable means to worship the one true God, they voted yes, and so it was.
I'd like to see some proof ot this.
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Originally Posted by RexMundi
I just ran across this group and noticed this thread so I had to join and post. Dear Soul Sister Claire, if you are really that naive of a person, I truly feel sorry for you. First off, let me explain that what he's doing is called a Balducci Levitation. He stands on the tip-toes of one foot. The audience must be placed 8 to 10 feet away at an exact 45 degree angle to the rear of the foot that's not "levitating". Then, it looks real and he films audience's reactions. Then, for his TV show, he has a wire attached to his belt, gets pulled up in the air by a big see-saw, and edits in the audience's reactions. But since you obviously believe everything you see and hear that also explains your literal interpretation of the bible. Another thing only a naive baffoon could possibly do. So, just for your info here's a little something you might want to research: In about year 382 Constantine the Emperor of Rome declared Christianity the official religion of Rome. This was done as a measure to squash an impending civil war between the Christians and the Pegans living there. He re-wrote the bible omitting all but the Gospels that catered to his master plan. His idea was to meld the 2 religious groups that were at odds into a single harmonious unit under Rome. He restructured Christianity and made Sunday the Sabbath. The day was already revered by the pagans as a day to worship the sun. He then made Jesus' birthday on December 25, an already recognized holiday for the birthdays of several other pagan gods. All this was to enable the pagans to go on doing what they were doing without changing their ways too much.

After this, all versions of the Christian bible ( of which there were about 200) were systematically siezed and destroyed and anyone claiming anything different than what was in Constantiene's bible was considered a traitor and a heritic and you can imagine what that means in ancient Rome. Here's the real kicker, up until that point Jesus was never considered to be the Son of God. He was revered by his followers as a prophet. A hand of God yes, but the Son of, no. The deification of Christ was VOTED on by a Roman council and since making Jesus the Son of God would help to solidify the new official Religion, and make Christianity the only and indisputable acceptable means to worship the one true God, they voted yes, and so it was.

So the bible you read was basically outlined by Romans and then of course edited numerous times by the Catholic church in later years as a means to control the masses during the monopoly on education by the church durring the middle ages. Therefore, the bible is nothing more than an archaic political agenda written and ammended by power hungry sinners and most definately not the work of God. Nothing in it can be taken seriously much less literally.

P.S. I am a devout Catholic. I believe in God and I go to church. However, organized Religion merely acts as a framework for me to build my own personal relationship with God. I'm not telling you how to worship but I feel obligated to say something when I see someone easily blinded by simple smokescreens in life. And Christianity, along with David Blaine are simple "pull my finger gags".
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