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27th September 2003, 11:46 PM
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Reps: 1,320 (power: 12) | | Originally Posted by EvolvEarth The why doesn't matter, it's the how that's important.
The how deals with science. The why deals with philosophy. Sometimes philosophy is the grappling hook that science uses to gain ground. I think both are very important as we should ask: " Why do we want to know how?"
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28th September 2003, 12:28 AM
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Reps: 33,304 (power: 47) | | Originally Posted by JohnR7 Would you rather He be depressed and miserable? That is Satan's job to be depressing and miserable.
Wouldn't God have complete control over his emotions though? I can't think that an omnipotent God would be unable to give himself pleasure without making any actions where even some mortal humans have mastered there feelings to such an extent.
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28th September 2003, 01:29 AM
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Reps: 1,320 (power: 12) | | Originally Posted by revolutio Wouldn't God have complete control over his emotions though? I can't think that an omnipotent God would be unable to give himself pleasure without making any actions where even some mortal humans have mastered there feelings to such an extent.
It is impossible to argue against God. If, say, he is not right; he could just make himself right. I mean, since he knows everything perfectly, its not like he's gonna do anything imperfect. If it pleases him to please others, then he will do this. It requires others though.
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28th September 2003, 01:56 AM
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Reps: 33,304 (power: 47) | | Originally Posted by Michali It is impossible to argue against God. If, say, he is not right; he could just make himself right. I mean, since he knows everything perfectly, its not like he's gonna do anything imperfect. If it pleases him to please others, then he will do this. It requires others though.
That made little sense. How am I arguing against God? If I am not mistaken he is absent at the present time or atleast not available for debate.
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28th September 2003, 02:13 AM
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You can't know joy without knowing pain, right? 
Then again, I'm probably wrong
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28th September 2003, 02:49 AM
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Reps: 2,470 (power: 17) | | Originally Posted by Jase Well, since I believe God made the universe, I think He created it to show us His majesty and leave us in awe of His creation.
How? 99% of people who ever live will observe no more than a miniscule fraction of the universe. An infinite, unbounded space-time matrix is stupendous overkill merely to instill a sense of awe in the minds of simplistic beings. A couple celestial bodies and a sun wouldn't be as spectacular.
But, say, 100,000 galaxies might, as opposed to unseen billions. I also think God did it to show, that even with this enormous and incomprehensibly complex universe, we are special despite being insignificant in the grand scope of things. God created all of this for us. I think thats incredible.
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28th September 2003, 05:46 PM
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there is a purpose for everything, it says in the bible, "for everything, absolutely everything, above and below, visible and invisible,... everything got started in him and finds its purpose in him." 
"unless you assume a God, The question of life's purpose is meaningless."
-Bertrand Russell, atheist
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28th September 2003, 06:01 PM
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Reps: 16,712 (power: 43) | | Originally Posted by Philosoft But, say, 100,000 galaxies might, as opposed to unseen billions.
A million billion galaxies that we will never see, all for us? I think that's insane.
I added a bit that I thought was important.
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28th September 2003, 06:56 PM
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Reps: 1,320 (power: 12) | | Originally Posted by Philosoft How? 99% of people who ever live will observe no more than a miniscule fraction of the universe. An infinite, unbounded space-time matrix is stupendous overkill merely to instill a sense of awe in the minds of simplistic beings.
But, say, 100,000 galaxies might, as opposed to unseen billions.
A million billion galaxies all for us? I think that's insane.
It is written in the prophets that the stars are longing to be visited by man. I think, after all is said and done, we will spend a good bit of our eternity exploring infinity. If your going to live forever, why not make an eternal playground?
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28th September 2003, 06:58 PM
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Reps: 16,712 (power: 43) | | Originally Posted by Michali It is written in the prophets that the stars are longing to be visited by man. I think, after all is said and done, we will spend a good bit of our eternity exploring infinity. If your going to live forever, why not make an eternal playground?
we are not going to live orever though. the lifetime of the universe is rather finite.
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