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Mark, you behave like this "satan" character fundies drone on about, you take a whole bushel of truth and add a sprinkling of lies.
We aren't "fundies", we are fundamentalists.
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The moment your camp stops using the made up words "darwinist" and "evolutionist", I'll stop using fundy
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And like some ragged stranger / Died upon the cross
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The moment your camp stops using the made up words "darwinist" and "evolutionist", I'll stop using fundy
But you are an evolutionist. What else do I call someone who believes in evolution?
__________________ You will do me the justice to remember, that I have always strenuously supported the Right of every Man to his own opinion, however different that opinion might be to mine. He who denies to another this right, makes a slave of himself to his present opinion, because he precludes himself the right of changing it.
Religious Fanatics, Religious Extremists, Religious Fundies, Religious Fundamentalists - It's all good.
I'd rather the term "fundamentalist". If you call me anything else, you're just being rude. I've never done anything to harm you or anyone else. Some ignorant atheist once said that he'd rather I blow up planes into towers than believe in 6 day creation though. Do you agree with him?
Why is it that atheists are always seen as reasonable? This is obviously not always true.
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Why is it that atheists are always seen as reasonable? This is obviously not always true.
Yea, not all atheists are reasonable, or nice.
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I'd rather the term "fundamentalist". If you call me anything else, you're just being rude.
And that is exactly how I feel when called an "evolutionist" or "darwinianist". These are made up terms invented by creationists as a form of belittlement. What I am is a scientist who accepts the ToE as being the model which best fits the observable facts. I will also answer to "atheist".
My point, regardless, stands. Stop using the terms I dislike, and I will stop using those you dislike.
--and note in the spirit of co-operation I have not used said word in this post.
Why is it that atheists are always seen as reasonable? This is obviously not always true.
Where are they always seen as reasonable? Last time I looked, atheists were human beings, and came with the full range of personality types.
__________________ I hear stories from the chamber / How Christ was born into a manger
And like some ragged stranger / Died upon the cross
And might I say it seems so fitting in its way
He was a carpenter by trade / Or at least that's what I'm told
--Mercy Seat, Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
And that is exactly how I feel when called an "evolutionist" or "darwinianist". These are made up terms invented by creationists as a form of belittlement.
Not really. Talk.Origins uses the term all the time. They are pretty proud of it too.
(Oh man... It's Eugenie Scott... Wow, she really ticks me off)
Where are they always seen as reasonable? Last time I looked, atheists were human beings, and came with the full range of personality types.
It's a public image.
__________________ You will do me the justice to remember, that I have always strenuously supported the Right of every Man to his own opinion, however different that opinion might be to mine. He who denies to another this right, makes a slave of himself to his present opinion, because he precludes himself the right of changing it.
(Oh man... It's Eugenie Scott... Wow, she really ticks me off)
From the quoted article:
'Plus he is operating from the creationist enthusiasm for authority ("if famous scientist X says it, it has to be true.")'
Eugenie Scott's decision to play in the opposition's sandpit does not invalidate my original claim.
My original point holds true. I find the term insulting. If you insist on throwing that stone, I shall throw some of my own.
__________________ I hear stories from the chamber / How Christ was born into a manger
And like some ragged stranger / Died upon the cross
And might I say it seems so fitting in its way
He was a carpenter by trade / Or at least that's what I'm told
--Mercy Seat, Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
Not really. Talk.Origins uses the term all the time. They are pretty proud of it too.
I dont agree with the terms myself but you're right, Dawkins talks about learning about "Darwinism" and being a "Darwinist".
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