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26th September 2003, 08:18 AM
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Reps: 12,682 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Northern Christian How do atheists/evolutionists explain the existance of the wide varietiy of atoms if everything came from nothing?
No one seems to have answered your question yet. Does anyone know where atoms came from, or how they are formed?
Maybe you would get an answer if you asked how the Hawaii islands were formed. They seem to think they know how that happened. | 
26th September 2003, 08:42 AM
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Reps: 17 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by JohnR7 No one seems to have answered your question yet. Does anyone know where atoms came from, or how they are formed?
Maybe you would get an answer if you asked how the Hawaii islands were formed. They seem to think they know how that happened.
Ok you asked for it. When the big bang occured the universe underwent a rapid expansion and began to cool. The universe at this point consists of a sea of quarks. Cooling further as the expansion continued the sea of quarks were able to combine to form protons and electrons. These protons and electron themselves combined to form hydrogen atoms.
Over a great period of time inconsistancies in the density of the universe medium caused clumps of hydrogen to form. these clumps underwent gravitational collapse to form the first stars. within these stars fusion turned hydrogen into helium, lithium, carbon, oxygen. When thses first stars exploded the elements were scattered across the universe and new stars formed which contained these new elements. Further elements now started forming within the cores of stars including iron and silicon. Further explosions spread this great mixture of elements.
Then, once upon a time (sorry for the cliche) a cloud of dust and gas started to collapse and formed a star. Around this star the remnants of the cloud of dust and gas formed a family of planets around this star. Not too long after this, life formed on one of the planets. And you get the rest of the picture....
I find the best thing about nucleosynthesis is the fact that we are made of stardust.
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26th September 2003, 08:56 AM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by JohnR7 No one seems to have answered your question yet.
JohnR7, is your problem that you have difficulty ready, or difficulty thinking? Even a quick glance through the replies reveals that four people answered his question before you posted this...
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26th September 2003, 09:50 AM
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Reps: 12,682 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Mainframes Ok you asked for it. When the big bang occured the universe underwent a rapid expansion and began to cool. The universe at this point consists of a sea of quarks.
So where did the quarks come from? All of your theorys presupposes the existance of some form of matter and energy. | 
26th September 2003, 09:55 AM
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Reps: 12,682 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Gormless JohnR7, is your problem that you have difficulty ready, or difficulty thinking?
Sense your new, I will explain the rules of the forum to you. What your doing here is being a fault finder and launching a personal attack against me. We are not here to attack people. We are here to talk about theorys and ideas.
The problem with attacking people is that it will cause the adminstrators to remove the thread and put an end to the conversation.
Mainfrane did finally answer the question. | 
26th September 2003, 10:38 AM
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Reps: 1,385 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by JohnR7 So where did the quarks come from? All of your theorys presupposes the existance of some form of matter and energy.
They very well could have been in a Quantum Singularity before the big bang occured. A Qauntum Singularity does not require a "creation" so it could always have existed. | 
26th September 2003, 10:58 AM
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Reps: 17 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by JohnR7 So where did the quarks come from? All of your theorys presupposes the existance of some form of matter and energy.
Basically the quarks form from the quite immense amounts of energy that was released at the moment of the big bang. As for the actual cause of the big bang that is still under debate.
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26th September 2003, 12:00 PM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by JohnR7 Mainfrane did finally answer the question.
Making him the fifth person to answer it, so I'm puzzled as to why you chose to claim that four others hadn't when they clearly had. Strikes me as rather dishonest on your part.
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26th September 2003, 12:10 PM
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Reps: 10,751 (power: 30) | | Originally Posted by Mainframes Basically the quarks form from the quite immense amounts of energy that was released at the moment of the big bang. As for the actual cause of the big bang that is still under debate.
So if there is enough energy, it forms particles? | 
26th September 2003, 12:16 PM
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Reps: 17 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by emmajane So if there is enough energy, it forms particles? 
Matter is quite simply a form of energy. Nothing complicated about it. Remember that old gem E=mc^2?
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