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Old 24th September 2003, 12:39 AM
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Love God created Time, not man!

Yet again modern technology provides us with visual evidence of the traditional irrational madness that man follows blindly in keeping international time as we [in Britain anyway] are traeted to the 'new year celebrations' in Australia by satellite news without more than a smidgen of concern at the obvious paradox billions are able to swallow and ignore that supposedly it is not 'new year' here.

Perhaps if we were floating in space the monstrous lie implicit in this means of 'keeping' time would be more apparent, imagine a ball of people spinning in space with the cry of celebration arising like a 'Mexican' wave arond a football stadium... then put the earth back in your mind and see that it really makes no difference to the absurdity of man's imposed timekeeping paradox.

Imagine God creating space and time [by whatever means ] ... was time different at different places, was there a sphere of different times where the earth was to be?

It is not so hard to see that there was not and thus that time was the same everywhere [it even sounds strange to have to say this, of course time is not different in different places, one cannot travel forwards and backwards in time just by stepping from side to side as man would like to pretend we can upon the earth...

So does this lie matter ?... obviously it does if one is trying to keep holy days as defined by God rather than mankind's mockeries of them !

To many perople holy sabbath is important, but they do not even realise that man's false timekeeping prevents them from keeping the true sabbath because they have grown used to the false tradition ... this is one very subtle deceit of those seeking the holy blessing unconditionally placed on the true sabbath by God...

So what [topically] about new year? ...

If we believed in the BC - AD myth then surely we would celebrate xmas at 'new year' for that supposedly is when the change from 1 BC to 1 AD occurred [except that of course nobody much actually beleives this anyway, but how did the day of the year get changed. certainly not by God, does anyone else notice the hand of man in corrupting time-keeping again in this one?

But God's year is detailed in the bible to start with the [Northern Hemisphere] Springtime NOT in midwinter ... why then do christians follow the Roman system based on their gods rather than the Hebrew system of the God of Christ? [Answer is 'by the force of arms of Rome and false propagated tradition ', is this really a basis for keeping holy times [holidays, why do we have xmas, easter,harvest festival,eucharist,communion in place of the holy days described in detail to be different in the bible]

Presumably to some who don't think they care about holidays this may not seem to matter, but bible prophecy indicates that it will...

But for those very many who keep false religious festivals kept by the christian churches in defiance of bible evidence that they are not holy, there has to be a meaning, you are being deceived by conventions and pagan traditions that you are celebrating God's holy times when you clearly are not.
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Old 24th September 2003, 12:46 AM
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I know im not being decieved by pagan festivals.

Just to point out, although its not as easy as jumping side to side, it is possible to travel faster or slower in time. Then again I guess we do it all the time, its just in so small incriments that its pretty impossible for us to notice it by ourselves.
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Any non-relative timekeeping situation would eventually result in it being high noon with the sun down. This is so blatently absurd that I hope you go away and never post again.
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what does God do near black holes? he we must separate "recorded time" with "actual time" which is the flow of events, and is only really measurable in a frame of reference or with a very expensive relativistic clock.
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what does God do near black holes? he we must separate "recorded time" with "actual time" which is the flow of events, and is only really measurable in a frame of reference or with a very expensive relativistic clock.
Don´t you know time dilation is just another of these satanic lies?

To the OP: time is not constant, but you might not believe that. You don´t have to - it is irrelevant for this topic.

What IS relevant: humans mechanisms for measuring time are not constand either. Not the ways humans measure, nor the mechanisms they are based on.

So it is not possible to keep "exact" holidays - the margin of error is to large for that.

But perhaps God is not really interested in this counting of seconds - if he was, he should have build a better universe.
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But perhaps God is not really interested in this counting of seconds - if he was, he should have build a better universe.
too right, all those pesky leap-seconds that they have to keep including from time to time because of the moon and so on. all those distortions because of the position of jupiter and asteroids and other planets causing leap microseconds. all those pesky far off objects and pressure from the CMB causing leap nanoseconds. bah!
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Bible Accuracy of timekeeping

God allowed the Hebrews a margin of error of plus or ninus one hour in timekeeping as shown by the extent of their exiles and wanderings to Egypt and Babylon, thus relativistic corrections are hatdly relevant

Equally God is quite aware who [no-one I guess] is going to go near a black hole] else he would have done things differently

So we simply are not TOLD [by God's inspiration of scientists that yearn for the truth when stumped to understand and get GIVEN a new theory [read the great scientists autobiographies to learn that they often actually rightly credit God with giving them the new idea for a theory, it is God that drives science!]

So we have an adequate method of keeping 'time' for purposes of gaining the blessing of the spirit of truth from God in keeping His holy days.

Equally when God destroys this universe and resurrects man to a new membrane of the multiverse for redemption.salvation of the billions of mankind , then time as we know it will not exis there either , our space-time is a /local/ 'phenomenon' in the multierse, just one membrane of many , God's membrane of the spirit is timeless with no death, decay, corruption etc for instance and hence this is the ultimate stae of our being too

1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

1Co 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
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We can sure come up with some wierd doctrines if we try and go too deep and ignore the obvious. The Bible clearly speaks about the error of placing too much emphasis on days and etc. without resorting to the latest theory about time and space.
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Wow, what a horrible world that would be. No time basically means we can not do anything, we will be frozen there. Sounds like hell to me.
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Disagree The 'christian churches KEEP days ,pagan days at that

Originally Posted by RFHendrix
We can sure come up with some wierd doctrines if we try and go too deep and ignore the obvious. The Bible clearly speaks about the error of placing too much emphasis on days and etc. without resorting to the latest theory about time and space.
My friend the christian churches place graet emphasis on KEEPING days, but PAGN ones ! DELIBERATELY CHOOSING to keep pagan gods days IN PLACE OF the holy days of the God of Love... open thine eyes, this is wrong!
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