Creation & EvolutionForum for the discussion of this important topic. This forum is open to non-believers. There is a Christians-only forum in the Christians-only section too.
whenever I need a quick pick-me-up, or whenever I feel down I come on these boards specifically to read AV1611VET's posts to make me giggle.
__________________ GOTT IST TOT To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
My P.A.I.N. (Personal Atheist Identification Number) is 13.
Fundamentalism In A Nutshell Award:
"There are a lot of things I have concluded to be wrong, without studying them in-depth. Evolution is one of them. The fact that I don't know that much about it does not bother me in the least."
Isn't there something about AV's argument that reminds you of Steven Wright's old line: "I woke up one morning to find that everything in my apartment had been stolen and replaced with an exact replica."
I am reminded of the aged academic who spent his whole professional life trying to prove that "The Iliad" was not written by Homer, but by another blind poet of the same name.
__________________ "A belief which leaves no place for doubt is not a belief; it is a superstition." - Jose Bergamin
"You can't trust an honest man." --- Anonymous
"He does not believe who does not live according to his belief." -- Thomas Fuller
"The fact that the author thinks slowly is not serious, but the fact that he publishes faster than he thinks is inexcusable." -- Wolfgang Pauli
"He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?" -- Micah 6:8
"It is because we believe absurdities that we are able to commit atrocities." -- Voltaire
"This isn't right. This isn't even wrong." -- Wolfgang Pauli
"Je ne suis pas marxiste." -- Karl Marx
"Faith is believing what you know ain't so."-- Mark Twain
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." -- Albert Einstein
Considering that the BIble is blissfully unaware of a NEED to clean up the Global Flood (the authors knew even less about geology than most Christian Literalists do) and so they didn't write anything about it...oops I mean to say "God". Just put it in place of the phrase "authors" in the above sentence).
So, let's see. COnsidering we have now left the realm of rational and entered into funtime fantasy land, let me hazard a guess:
Noah started to clean up after the flood but found that his broom was unable to push 10 trillion tons of mud into nice ordered segregated layers of sediment alternative by random energy regimes, so he called Michael who was on leave for a week from Heavenly Duties. Michael was having a spat with his roommate, Gabriel so he told Noah that Gabriel would be glad to shovel some sediment around, but then he "forgot" to tell Gabriel. So later on at the bar, when Noah saw Gabriel all like down at the end of the bar chatting up these two chicks, he was like "Nuh huh! You dihnt'! I spent all day shoveling sediments into order layers all over the planet trying to clean up this global flood and YOU said you wanted to help me but you didn't even show up!"
ANd Gabriel was all like "Not in my face beeyotch! I didn't say I wanted to clean up the Global Flood and I most certainly didn't want to sweep up sediments into an orderly set of layers indicating anything BUT a global flood!"
And Noah was all like "talk to the hand cuz the face ain't listenin'!" And Gabriel was all like "Oh no, you messin' with the wrong angel, I ain't no Cherubiim who just fell off the turnip truck!"
And then Noah picks up a bar stool and slams it into Gabriel's face and knocks every other tooth out.
So in the end Jerry Springer had to come and clean up all the Global Flood.
I think if you have trouble finding this in scripture, you might just have to "keep looking".
the story of Gilgamesh is the exact same instance; the flood really happened, it just wasn't world-wide.
This makes Genesis a plagiarized and reimagined copy of the much older Epic of Gilgamesh. It doesn't make either description accurate.
__________________ “It took me years, but letting go of religion has been the most profound wake up of my life. I feel I now look at the world not as a child, but as an adult. I see what's bad and it's really bad. But I also see what is beautiful, what is wonderful. And I feel so deeply appreciative that I am alive. How dare the religious use the term 'born again.' That truly describes freethinkers who've thrown off the shackles of religion so much better!” - Julia Sweeney
This makes Genesis a plagiarized and reimagined copy of the much older Epic of Gilgamesh. It doesn't make either description accurate.
Unless we want to proclaim Gilgamesh as divinely inspired and infallible as well.
__________________
Don't talk like one of them. You're not! Even if you'd like to be.
To them, you're just a freak, like me! They need you right now, but when they don't, they'll cast you out, like a leper! You see, their morals, their code, it's a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these... these civilized people, they'll eat each other.
See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
nothing is infallible; if every Bible besides one burned up in a world-wide religious holocaust, that one last Bible would need to be destruction proof if it were infalliable.
I think God speaks to us in many languages, some of which we cannot understand.
This is why I believe God is mysterious and cannot be chained to human "rules", yet folks like AV love to restrict God to a small and old book that doesn't change in an ever-changing universe. Its unprogressive folks that keep God in a bottle. Yes, it is a GREAT manuscript with tons of helpful advice and excellent tips on how to treat others, but the smallest and irrelevant details within (when taken individually, NOT AS A WHOLE along with the rest of the Bible) are what people pander for their own means.
Unless we want to proclaim Gilgamesh as divinely inspired and infallible as well.
Except that we have copies of the Epic that date from much closer to the time they were first written than any of the "infallible Word of God". I've even seen such a copy with my own eyes.
__________________ "Everyone is entitled to his own opinions, but not his own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan
"When the facts change, I change my opinion. What do you do, sir?" - John Maynard Keynes
Except that we have copies of the Epic that date from much closer to the time they were first written than any of the "infallible Word of God". I've even seen such a copy with my own eyes.
The Epic of Gilgamesh, awesome story.... no doubt it is as likely to be historically true than the Bible, but that does not disprove either....
Linear Mode
