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You hold in your hand a rock known as, let's call it, Dalite.
This Dalite emits one particle called a Dalon every year on January 1.
Analysis shows that the Dalite you're holding has 10 particles of Dalon embedded in it.
CHAPTER TWO
Absolutely without fail, observation shows that every time Dalite is formed (keyword: formed), it always forms with 100,000 Dalons embedded --- irregardless of the size of the rock.
CHAPTER THREE
Chris T. Ian claims that, according to The Book, this universe has only been in existence for 100 years, and the following converstion ensues:
YOU: Not so --- I have a Dalite rock with only 10 Dalons left. This is evidence that this rock is 999,990 years old.
CHRIS: Not so --- when God created (keyword: created) Dalite, He must have created it with only 110 Dalons (embedded age); but when it forms, it forms with a process that embeds 100,000 Dalons into it.
QUESTION
Would you be willing to admit that your evidence is inconclusive?
Why should I believe Chris T. Ian? Does he have evidence for his claim that God created the rock with 110 dalons in it? Why should I take The Book over what reality tells me?
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I've got 10 minutes left --- and so far, I'm assuming you're all voting "inconclusive"?
Anyone say otherwise?
Instead of making up silly theoreticals, why don't you discuss reality? Like, why (as predicted by a 4.5 billion year old earth) there are no radioactive isotopes with short half-lives that cannot be created by the decay of existing isotopes with long half-lives?
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No --- the created Dalite doesn't just look like it only has 100 Dalons --- it actually does only have 100 Dalons.
Here's the problem with the embedded age concept. There is no difference between age and embedded age. God could have created the Universe last Thursday and embedded age and knowledge into the universe. How would anyone be able to tell the difference?
I say I am 33 years old, but God could have created the universe last week with me in it, but that doesn't mean that I'm not 33. As soon as you suggest embedded age you negate a young earth.
Also, please tell me how that's "deceitful" when He put what He did in writing?
It's decietful if nature tells us one thing and "God's" book tells us something different. Which should we choose? Why would nature be wrong? And how can truth contradict truth?