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View Poll Results: Would you vote based on creationism in classrooms? | |
Yes, I would not vote for a candidate, who encouraged creationism in schools
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No, creationism doesn't belong in science classrooms, but I vote on more than one issue
|    | 20 | 35.09% | |
Yes, I would vote for a candidate, who supported teaching creationism
|    | 0 | 0% | |
No, I support creationism but I vote on more than one issue
|    | 1 | 1.75% | |
Yes, I am worried about the seperation of church and state. It is my #1 issue.
|    | 13 | 22.81% | |
Yes, the Bible should always be the ruling authority.
|    | 0 | 0% | |
Yes, I am religious but I don't feel that religious views should be forced on others
|    | 4 | 7.02% | |
Maybe, I don't like either party and am disgusted by politics
|    | 1 | 1.75% | |
I don't know.
|    | 1 | 1.75% | |
My answer is not here. (Please post)
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22nd July 2007, 08:09 PM
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In this video CNN asks Republican presidential candidates about their stance on evolution and/or creationism in science classrooms.
I dislike that the 2 party system polarizes issues. Mix religion in and you have what the founding fathers were trying to avoid.
Would you vote for or against a candidate based on whether they feel that creationism should be taught along with evolution? As McCain, put it all "theories" should be taught.
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22nd July 2007, 08:14 PM
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22nd July 2007, 08:21 PM
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Reps: 1,955,410,478 (power: 1,955,418) | | Originally Posted by notto I would vote against the candidate if I felt that they were going to try to influence national or state education policy to support teaching creationism or intelligent design as a valid scientific theory in public school classrooms or if they were going to support it with public funds in any way.
What if the candidate or party platform contained more issues that you side with than the alternative candidate?
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22nd July 2007, 08:22 PM
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Reps: 33,621 (power: 52) | | Originally Posted by Lilandra What if the candidate or party platform contained more issues that you side with than the alternative candidate?
I doubt that is going to happen. Reality has a liberal bias.
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22nd July 2007, 08:23 PM
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Reps: 1,955,410,478 (power: 1,955,418) | | Originally Posted by notto I doubt that is going to happen. Reality has a liberal bias.
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In some respects, science has far surpassed religion in delivering awe. How is it that hardly any major religion has looked at science and concluded, "This is better than we thought! The universe is much bigger than out prophets said, grander, more subtle, more elegant. God must be even greater than we dreamed"? Instead they say, "No, no, no! My god is a little god, and I want him to stay that way." _-Carl Sagan | 
22nd July 2007, 08:29 PM
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22nd July 2007, 09:03 PM
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Reps: 1,955,410,478 (power: 1,955,418) | | | Personally, other issues bug me a hair bit more. Although, the creationism thing is quite an irritant.
For example, I don't think I have seen a Dem candidate, who had an effective plan for terrorism.
__________________ "Consider the lilies is the only commandment I ever obeyed." -- Emily Dickinson
In some respects, science has far surpassed religion in delivering awe. How is it that hardly any major religion has looked at science and concluded, "This is better than we thought! The universe is much bigger than out prophets said, grander, more subtle, more elegant. God must be even greater than we dreamed"? Instead they say, "No, no, no! My god is a little god, and I want him to stay that way." _-Carl Sagan
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22nd July 2007, 10:48 PM
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Reps: 54,608,584,235,725 (power: 54,608,584,241) | | | I would vote on more than if the candidate in question wants Creationism in schools.
Issues such as taxes and tax load distribution, overall quality of education, international relations, et cetera et cetera influence how I would vote.
I mean, if the guy wanted to redistribute taxes so those who can afford to pay more pay more, those who can pay less pay less, and still manage to get more tax dollars than are currently coming in, while upping the quality of education, repairing the damage Iraq and other things have done to our national reputation, and a few other things I see as good, then I don't care about his stance on Creationism in schools. The Supreme Court will probably just smack it down anyways. And if it gets through, there are ways of making the people who started it want to take it out (such as by insisting EVERY RELIGIOUS ORIGINS STORY EVER be taught in science class). OTOH, if there were only one or two things I liked about his stance, I wouldn't vote for him anyways regardless of his Cr.Evo stance.
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23rd July 2007, 12:14 AM
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Reps: 879 (power: 0) | | Glad I'm a Canadian on this issue, so I don't have to think about it much, but I would think that I would find a candidate who supported teaching creationist ideas in the public system to be very telling of their understanding of the world. The U.S. has enough educational problems as is. If you're going to give every idea a "fair chance" in schools they should have the Flying Spaghetti Monster guy come up with a cirriculum. | 
23rd July 2007, 12:58 AM
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