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How can you believe in evolution and the bible at the same time? This bothers me and I want an answer. I am a seeker of the truth but all this forum is doing is confusing and tearing down.
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its not possible, cause if u beleive in evolution,u dont beleive the first few books of the bible because thats basically all it talks about in the first few is creation, and how God made the earth
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Originally Posted by joguy923
its not possible, cause if u beleive in evolution,u dont beleive the first few books of the bible because thats basically all it talks about in the first few is creation, and how God made the earth
I agree. But im still confused about these "Theistic Evolutionist".
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i havent heard much about ''theistic evolutionist's'' so i wouldn't know what to tell u, sorry
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What you really need to do is just follow some of the threads and the discussions and you will begin to understand, even if not agree with, where we are coming from.

But, basically, we believe that God created by means of evolution, and that this is not inconsistent with the text at all (as you will see if you read through the threads).

I am assuming that you are coming from a fundamentalist background in the United States, since you seem to assume that the evolution=disbelief in the Bible concept.

Keep this in mind: worldwide, more Bible-believing Christians believe the Earth is billions of years old rather than a few thousand. More than half believe that evolution very likely was a means by which God created diversity of life on this planet (even if not the only way).

So, this is not some strange, cult belief, it is actually the predominant view among Christians worldwide.

Young Earth Creationism is growing in the US, the UK and in Australia where there are a number of YEC speaking tours going, and books being published, but this is still the minority view.
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What you really need to do is just follow some of the threads and the discussions and you will begin to understand, even if not agree with, where we are coming from.

But, basically, we believe that God created by means of evolution, and that this is not inconsistent with the text at all (as you will see if you read through the threads).

I am assuming that you are coming from a fundamentalist background in the United States, since you seem to assume that the evolution=disbelief in the Bible concept.

Keep this in mind: worldwide, more Bible-believing Christians believe the Earth is billions of years old rather than a few thousand. More than half believe that evolution very likely was a means by which God created diversity of life on this planet (even if not the only way).

So, this is not some strange, cult belief, it is actually the predominant view among Christians worldwide.

Young Earth Creationism is growing in the US, the UK and in Australia where there are a number of YEC speaking tours going, and books being published, but this is still the minority view.
Ok, but where is the time where God could have let evolution develop? Not in 6 days.... and yes that is litteral. Wouldnt that mean God was a monkey if your view is true? Another thing just because were the miniority belif doesnt mean its false.
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How can you believe in evolution and the bible at the same time? This bothers me and I want an answer. I am a seeker of the truth but all this forum is doing is confusing and tearing down.
How can we accept evolution and remain Christains? Because accepting the fact that we have descended from less derived life forms has absolutely no bearing on the teachings, sacrifice, and resurrection of Christ. Nor does it at all affect the existance of God or the existance of sin.

Evolution has (and should have) as much bearing on an individual's Christian beliefs as believing that pi is actually 3 does.

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its not possible, cause if u beleive in evolution,u dont beleive the first few books of the bible because thats basically all it talks about in the first few is creation, and how God made the earth
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-Dr. Alan Feduccia, in an interview with Discover magazine
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Originally Posted by mattes
Wouldnt that mean God was a monkey if your view is true?
Wouldn't that mean you believe God looks like a Homo sapien? Do you honestly believe that?
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Originally Posted by mattes
Ok, but where is the time where God could have let evolution develop? Not in 6 days.... and yes that is litteral. Wouldnt that mean God was a monkey if your view is true? Another thing just because were the miniority belif doesnt mean its false.
The days are literal within the creation story but the story itself is not literal (non-literal does not equal false).

I assume you are refering to being created in the image of God? Using your logic wouldn't God be a human?

To be "in the image of" something means you represent it like an ambassador would represent a king.
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