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Jesus Christ, was he sent for all mankind?

Hello.We muslims believe he was sent to the sons of Israel not for all mankind.This doesnt mean the one who follows Him in real does a wrong job but this is God's plan for He sent Muhammed-aleyhissalam-to all mankind.Which proofs do christians have to claim that Jesus was sent to entire humanity and not only to the israelites?
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He came and paid for all our sins to offer salvation, including yours. Pretty cool, huh?
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He came and paid for all our sins to offer salvation, including yours. Pretty cool, huh?
Israel just got first crack at being "resurrected" first it seems. Still studying on this.

Luke 2:34 Behold, this [child] is set for the falling and resurrection/rising-again/anastasin <386>of many in Israel; and for a sign which shall be spoken against;

Reve 20:5 The rest of the dead-ones/nekrwn <3498> not live until should be being finished the thousand years, this the resurrection/anastasiV <386> , the first/prwth <4413> .
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Aha! I found Paul's words on it.

Romans 3:29-30

Is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too, since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith.

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Jesus Christ, was he sent for all mankind?
Of course He was!!! He was the one promised since the beginning of the World.

Also, since Muslims appear to take such an interest in the Christ-ian Bible, how would you define this greek word for "World" in the NT/NC? Thanks and peace.

John 1:29 On the morrow, seeing the John, the Jesus, coming toward him, and saith--Lo! the Lamb of the God, the one taking away the sin of the World/kosmou <2889>.

John 1:29 | th <3588> {THE} epaurion <1887> {MORROW} blepei <991> (5719) {SEEING} o <3588> {THE} iwannhV <2491> {JOHN} ton <3588> {THE} ihsoun <2424> {JESUS} ercomenon <2064> (5740) {COMING} proV <4314> {TOWARD} auton <846> {HIM,} kai <2532> {AND} legei <3004> (5719) {SAYS,} ide <1492> (5657) {BEHOLD} o <3588> {THE} amnoV <286> {LAMB} tou <3588> {OF THE} qeou <2316> {GOD,} o <3588> {THE} airwn <142> (5723) {ONE TAKING AWAY} thn <3588> {THE} amartian <266> {SIN} tou <3588> {OF THE} kosmou <2889> {WORLD.}
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Hello.We muslims believe he was sent to the sons of Israel not for all mankind.
Then why did He tell His disciples to go and preach to all of the nations?
KJV: Mat 28:
19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.


This doesnt mean the one who follows Him in real does a wrong job but this is God's plan for He sent Muhammed-aleyhissalam-to all mankind.Which proofs do christians have to claim that Jesus was sent to entire humanity and not only to the israelites?
I just quoted you one. Also read the book or Acts. It will surely support the command that Jesus gave.

Where in the Qu'ran does it say that Mohammad was for all of mankind?
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Then why did He tell His disciples to go and preach to all of the nations?
KJV: Mat 28:
19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

I just quoted you one. Also read the book or Acts. It will surely support the command that Jesus gave.

Where in the Qu'ran does it say that Mohammad was for all of mankind?
EEEEKKK! Please do not use the KJV!!!! LOL.

Matthew 24:14 and this good news of the reign shall be proclaimed in all the world/oikou-menh <3625>, for a testimony to all the nations; and then shall The/to <3588> End/teloV <5056> arrive

Matthew 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I myself have commanded you, And lo! I, am, with you, all the days, until the full-end/sun-teleiaV <4930> of the Age.

I still want the Muslims to give me their view of the greek word for "World" in our NT.

John 1:29 On the morrow, seeing the John, the Jesus, coming toward him, and saith--Lo! the Lamb of the God, the one taking away the sin of the World/kosmou <2889>.
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EEEEKKK! Please do not use the KJV!!!! LOL.

Matthew 24:14 and this good news of the reign shall be proclaimed in all the world/oikou-menh <3625>, for a testimony to all the nations; and then shall The/to <3588> End/teloV <5056> arrive

Matthew 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I myself have commanded you, And lo! I, am, with you, all the days, until the full-end/sun-teleiaV <4930> of the Age.

I still want the Muslims to give me their view of the greek word for "World" in our NT.

John 1:29 On the morrow, seeing the John, the Jesus, coming toward him, and saith--Lo! the Lamb of the God, the one taking away the sin of the World/kosmou <2889>.
I had witnessed several opponents of KJV, but I prefer to use it. Like all Bible versions, each has its problems. I grew up with it; so, it is not a big deal since I have become comfortable in understanding the laguage it uses. If you understand the language, there are fewer issues. I also use cross references if I have some difficulty in understanding. Watch out! Little Lamb. Don't diss my KJ. Those are fighting words. You are inciting my to a fight.
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