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11th September 2003, 06:04 PM
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11th September 2003, 06:26 PM
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Reps: 62,343 (power: 74) | | It sounds like you might have Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, not the devil. Typical Obsessions Obsessions are recurrent, intrusive, and unwanted thoughts, impulses, or images that cause significant anxiety. At first the obsession may be experienced as relatively benign. Over time, the person associates it with fear and disabling anxiety. Obsessions fall into the following common thematic categories: - Fear of contamination with dirt, germs, or poisons
- Fear of having a serious illness
- Fear that one’s actions hurt other people or cause bad things to happen
- Inability to discard useless items (hoarding)
- Inappropriate sexual and aggressive thoughts and images
- Need for symmetry, order, or exactness
From http://www.mentalhealthchannel.net/ocd/symptoms.shtml
When you pray do you think you've said something "wrong" and have to keep repeating yourself until it sounds "right"? That is aso OCD and it happens to me.
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11th September 2003, 11:42 PM
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12th September 2003, 01:16 AM
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Reps: 3,179 (power: 14) | | Originally Posted by Gareth I'm new here, and I really need help to stop these thoughts about Jesus which are going through my mind!! It feels like it's tearing my relationship with Jesus apart!
I used to masturbate quite regulary, but lately I've been really trying to stop doing it for as long as possible. But that's not why I'm posting here for. It's something MUCH worse!!!
I utterly dispise these thought that keep coming into my head! Since Saturday, in my mind, I keep on thinking of masterbating Jesus when he's on the cross!!
It's HORRIBLE!!! Whenever I think of Jesus, that sinful image comes into my mind! It's always constant, and it's taking over all my thoughts! This is the worst thing you could POSSIBLY think about EVER!! It's the ultimate MOCKERY of Jesus, and I just want it to stop SO MUCH!
I haven't been feeling like myself ever since (4 days now). I always have a strange feeling in my stomach - a bit like queeziness. I've been sick on 2 occasions too.
I don't know if I can be forgiven for these sinful thoughts! PLEASE help me!!
Those thoughts are probably not even be yours, though, especially since you're distressed by them. You're under spiritual attack. satan can and does inject thoughts into your head to ruin your peace, distress you, make you doubt your salvation, cause discord between you and the Lord, and so much more. Just tell the Lord you reject the thought the minute it comes into your head and then praise Him. Remember, it isn't sin if you reject it and embrace the truth. You always have the option of doing that. That's why the Bible tells us to take every thought captive unto obedience to Christ. And you're not alone. I truly think every saint goes through this at one point or another. I know I did a few years ago. But do a spiritual inventory. If there's another sin that may be giving satan access, it should be conquered. Find the verses that most directly contradict the thought, and say, "Get behind me satan. For it is written..." Remember, Jesus was tempted to bow down and worship satan, kill Himself, and use His supernatural powers to prematurely break His fast and in a sense, testify against Himself. If satan did it to Jesus where he had no possibility of making Jesus stumble, he'll do it to Jesus's follwers as well. It just happens to be your turn. I think satan is just trying to rattle your cage. You're under attack. If you just started a new ministry, just started coming closer to Christ, are about to receive a reward from the Lord, are especially strong in your faith, or if you have an area of life that needs to be cleansed or you're being tested, these are the most common times for this to happen.
I'll pray for your peace, comfort, and help in times of trouble. I'm here if you need to talk. Blessings to you, my friend.
Oh-one more thing that works. satan will back off if you make his blasphemy attacks most unprofitable for him. Get a good praise album and keep your Bible on hand. The minute it happens, read the scriptures and praise God. In the spirit world, praise is actually a weapon and a ver powerful one, too. For a time your attacks may increase to get you to back down. If this happens, just keep upping the ante until the accuser of the brethren backs down. If you're at work, recite verses and praise God in your head. If you're persistent, it works. Resist the deviol and he will flee from you.
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12th September 2003, 03:19 AM
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Reps: 62,343 (power: 74) | | Originally Posted by Gareth I'm new here, and I really need help to stop these thoughts about Jesus which are going through my mind!! It feels like it's tearing my relationship with Jesus apart!
I used to masturbate quite regulary, but lately I've been really trying to stop doing it for as long as possible. But that's not why I'm posting here for. It's something MUCH worse!!!
I utterly dispise these thought that keep coming into my head! Since Saturday, in my mind, I keep on thinking of masterbating Jesus when he's on the cross!!
It's HORRIBLE!!! Whenever I think of Jesus, that sinful image comes into my mind! It's always constant, and it's taking over all my thoughts! This is the worst thing you could POSSIBLY think about EVER!! It's the ultimate MOCKERY of Jesus, and I just want it to stop SO MUCH!
I haven't been feeling like myself ever since (4 days now). I always have a strange feeling in my stomach - a bit like queeziness. I've been sick on 2 occasions too.
I don't know if I can be forgiven for these sinful thoughts! PLEASE help me!!
I get unwanted thoughts too sometimes but I know it's because of my OCD (not Satan, demons, etc). My brain does not produce enough seratonin, which leads to things like me repeating events over and over, unwanted thoughts, etc. When I get an unwanted though I just wave it away and say "No!" and that usually makes it go away. Don't worry about it though, it's not your fault, your brain is just having a little trouble carrying signals. "It's not me, it's my OCD".
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12th September 2003, 09:04 PM
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13th September 2003, 02:19 PM
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Thanks for that site cynjo59! I'll save it and have a look at it later.
Praise the Lord forever!!
besides, how do we know that this OCD hasn't been made by the Devil himself? | 
13th September 2003, 02:27 PM
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14th September 2003, 12:35 PM
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Reps: 62,343 (power: 74) | | Originally Posted by Gareth besides, how do we know that this OCD hasn't been made by the Devil himself?
Because it can be genetic? It doesn't need Satan for it to occur.
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14th September 2003, 01:02 PM
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Reps: 3,179 (power: 14) | | Originally Posted by wblastyn Because it can be genetic? It doesn't need Satan for it to occur.
Well, it can be genetic and can create a predisposition, I suppose. The problem is, physical diseases cannot choose specific thoughts or plant specific images in the mind. Since Gareth is was very distressed by those thoughts, he couldn't have been entertaining them. And when that happens, a sudden onslaught of vile thoughts that horrify the person who is experiencing them, usually they do come from satan.
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