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15th June 2007, 04:49 PM
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What if Creation is just God's idea of entertainment, so that he can torture all humans as much as he likes?
How do you KNOW God is perfectly good and not perfectly evil?
Sam
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15th June 2007, 05:06 PM
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The chocolate would not exist if God was evil.
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15th June 2007, 05:09 PM
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I mean, when I design a computer system I don't much care for the comfort of the programs that run on it (I am supposed to care for the users of it, but eh...). Would God see humanity as end users, or as applications? | 
15th June 2007, 05:16 PM
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Reps: 15 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Upisoft The chocolate would not exist if God was evil. 
Aaaaah, but the pleasure of chocolate is fleeting. We only have small bites of it and when it's finished we feel even worse than before because it's gone. What's more, if you eat too much you get sick.
See? These are the cruel and taunting actions of a being of pure evil? Why would a perfectly good God give us these little glimpses of pleasure then snatch them cruelly away from us, just to throw the evilness and horror of the rest of the world into sharp contrast?
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15th June 2007, 05:19 PM
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Reps: 15 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by spiritplumber Well, the question there would be -- what if God's idea of good is antithetical to humanity's?
I mean, when I design a computer system I don't much care for the comfort of the programs that run on it (I am supposed to care for the users of it, but eh...). Would God see humanity as end users, or as applications?
Yes that's the question I suppose. What if God's idea of Good is amusing himself by torturing humans?
How do Christians know that God is perfectly good in the sense that he has humanity's best interests at heart?
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15th June 2007, 05:25 PM
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15th June 2007, 05:31 PM
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Ahhhh but its the same as the chocolate isn't it?
Beer offers an excape from the evilness of the world, but it is only a temporary escape and when we come back from it we often feel ill and have a horrible hangover. The temporary escape only serves to emphasize how horrible the real world is, so total suffering is increased.
What's more if you try to use alcohol to permanently escape the world, you become and alcoholic and suffer terrible health problems.
Is beer the creation of a loving and good God? I think not! Only a being of pure evil could create a substance so vile.
Sam
[PS It should be noted that all of this is strictly tongue in cheek, I actually love beer. But I've yet to see any reason to believe God is good and not evil] | 
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Good question Sammy. Does the Bible does it say God loves humanity like his children? Or is this an invention? (I'm not very good at scripture) | 
15th June 2007, 06:00 PM
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Maybe this isn't evil, but it sure isn't "good".
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Reps: 92,362,776,944,199,424 (power: 92,362,776,944,209) | | Originally Posted by sammydee Aaaaah, but the pleasure of chocolate is fleeting. We only have small bites of it and when it's finished we feel even worse than before because it's gone. What's more, if you eat too much you get sick.
That's right, but really cruel would be if we couldn't eat chocolate if we once tasted it. That is a torture!
Fortunately God is not as bad an my imaginatin can get.
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