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To be honest...no one really knows...but the marrying to their sisters is possible and probable.
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Originally Posted by Ark Guy
To be honest...no one really knows...but the marrying to their sisters is possible and probable.
Arkguy, I am actually very impressed with the fact that you acknowledge that we can not know the answer to this. I am pleasantly surprised, and I mean that.
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There is a lot we don't know about. The question is, is it feasable? Is it possible? Could ithave happened this way?


Evos like to present this kind of nonsense as if it's impossible....like this issue, the evos stand corrected rather quickly.
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Evos like to present this kind of nonsense as if it's impossible....like this issue, the evos stand corrected rather quickly.
Weren't you the one who was corrected? You said Adam and Eve married their sisters and it was pointed out to you that the Bible does not say that.
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IMO, Adam and Eve were the first humans made in "God's image". Thus they had souls. There may have been other "people" on earth who had not been infused with souls.
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No, the bible says Adam and Eve were the first Humans...Now it doesn't say that directly, but the context surely says it.

God made "man" from the dust..his name was Adam.
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Then from Adams side (rib) he formed woman...her name was Eve.

Now if you can show me a scripture that even hints at the possibiity of a pre-human soulless race, then lets see it.
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Then from Adams side (rib) he formed woman...her name was Eve.

Now if you can show me a scripture that even hints at the possibiity of a pre-human soulless race, then lets see it.
Oh but Genesis 1 says God spoke man and woman into existance at the same time. So which one is it?
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No it doesn't...

GEN 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.

Genesis 1:7 say he created him...then continues saying that he created them. This doesn't sound like they were created at the same instance.

Besides, when the second account....which is a more detailed account...is brought into view, it becomes more than obvious that the creation of Adam and Eve were seperate events.

AND... when you read the New Testament it also tells us the creation of dam and Eve were seperate events..

1TI 2:13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve.

You need to deny a lot of biblical scripture to support your same moment concept wblastyn
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Arkguy:

I agree that there is a lot we do not know, but I disagree with your asessment of which group is less open to the various possibilities. True atheistic evolutionists cut themselves off from a wide spectrum of possibilities. But the YEC cuts himself off from the other side of the equation. I am an evolutionist in that I believe that God used evolution (or something very similar to how it is currently described) to create most of the diverse life on this Earth, and that He did so over the billions of years that is shown by the evidence of His Creation. I am a Creationist in that I also believe that God could have, and in the case of Man very likely did, engage in specific special creations.

Now, as for Adam and Eve, you agree that the Bible does not explicitly state that Adam and Eve were the first and only humans at the time they were "created", but then you state that the "implication" is there. I think we must always be careful about reading things into the Scripture to fit a preconceived idea. Keep in mind that the Bible is equally silent on who Cain could have married, but it is definitely true that the "implication" from the strict text is that there *were* a large number of people on the Earth at the time of the murder, and that this murder took place before Adam and Eve had other children.

If you are going to be selective over which "implication" you are going to follow, you could accept one and not the other or the other and not the one. But you can't accept one implication, but then say it is improper to accept an implication somewhere else.
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