You may have heard in the news that a couple of Post Offices in Texas have been forced to take down small posters that say "IN GOD WE TRUST." The law, they say, is being violated. It is something silly about electioneering posters (is God running for office)? Anyway, I heard proposed on a radio station show, that we all write "IN GOD WE 'TRUST" on the back of all our mail. After all, that is our national motto, and it's on all the money we use to buy those stamps. I think it is a wonderful idea.
We must take back our nation from all the people who think that anything that offends them should be removed. If you like this idea, please pass it on and DO IT. The idea of writing or stamping "IN GOD WE TRUST" on our envelopes sounds good to me. It has been reported that 86% of Americans believe in God. Therefore, I have a very hard time understanding why there is such a mess about having "In God We Trust"on our money and having God in the pledge of Allegiance. Could it be that we just need to take action and tell the 14% to sit down and shut up?
what do you guys think? I think im gonna start doing it...
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We must take back our nation from all the people who think that anything that offends them should be removed.
That's a strawman argument. The issue is that government can't be used by anyone to push religion.
No one would say that anyone can't post "In God we Trust" on their private property. But no one can use government resources to promote any religion or nonreligious point of view.
If you like this idea, please pass it on and DO IT. The idea of writing or stamping "IN GOD WE TRUST" on our envelopes sounds good to me.
I prefer to use my black sharpie to cross out In God We Trust on my money thanks.
It has been reported that 86% of Americans believe in God. Therefore, I have a very hard time understanding why there is such a mess about having "In God We Trust"on our money and having God in the pledge of Allegiance.
It's because the government is prohibited by the Constitution from pushing one religious opinion over another. The govenment has no business telling anyone to trust in a god. The government has no business telling my kids what we are under any god at all.
Could it be that we just need to take action and tell the 14% to sit down and shut up?
what do you guys think? I think im gonna start doing it...
And there is the typical threat that usually comes at the end of posts like yours.
Last edited by crazyfingers; 4th September 2003 at 12:10 PM.
Whether "your" God is the same as mine... it does not say Christian God, Catholic God, Protestant God, Karmic God, whatever.. it is referring to a higher power..
so you mark out "In God We Trust" on your dollar bills? Do you not trust Him?
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You may have heard in the news that a couple of Post Offices in Texas have been forced to take down small posters that say "IN GOD WE TRUST." The law, they say, is being violated. It is something silly about electioneering posters (is God running for office)? Anyway, I heard proposed on a radio station show, that we all write "IN GOD WE 'TRUST" on the back of all our mail.
Okay.
After all, that is our national motto, and it's on all the money we use to buy those stamps. I think it is a wonderful idea.
We must take back our nation from all the people who think that anything that offends them should be removed.
I think you meant, "We Christians must claim America as a nation under our god and our god only."
If you like this idea, please pass it on and DO IT. The idea of writing or stamping "IN GOD WE TRUST" on our envelopes sounds good to me.
Sounds like someone is trying to claim that America is not a country for those that believe in different gods and no gods at all.
It has been reported that 86% of Americans believe in God. Therefore, I have a very hard time understanding why there is such a mess about having "In God We Trust"on our money and having God in the pledge of Allegiance. Could it be that we just need to take action and tell the 14% to sit down and shut up?
86% of Americans don't all believe in the same deity. Also, many people that do believe in a god whether it be a god other than the Judeo-Christian deity or even the Judeo-Christian deity also find this as unfair to people that do not share a universal concept of a god.
what do you guys think? I think im gonna start doing it...
You can do what you want, but I think this is a nation under tolerance and freedom, not under any specific deity.
I think your oversimplified views on god and government are quite scary.
You basically just stated that majority rule is all that is necessary for an action to be "right".
Hmm, would you be defending "In Odin we trust" on the money if %86 of the country was composed of nordic pagans, even though that is not your faith, purely because that is the majority so they have the right to hold power.
You also state it is time to "take back our nation", yet the other people should just "sit down and shut up". What would be the difference between these individuals viewpoints that would make the nature of their actions correct?
Whether "your" God is the same as mine... it does not say Christian God, Catholic God, Protestant God, Karmic God, whatever.. it is referring to a higher power..
so you mark out "In God We Trust" on your dollar bills? Do you not trust Him?
Some people believe in many gods that are equal in power or are on different levels of authority. Wouldn't that be an insult to polytheists and atheists alike?
Whether "your" God is the same as mine... it does not say Christian God, Catholic God, Protestant God, Karmic God, whatever.. it is referring to a higher power..
The idea of a higher power, a god, is a monotheist belief that contradicts polytheist beliefs or nontheist beliefs.
It promotes the religious belief of monotheism. That it is capitalized is highly suggestive of the Judeo-Christian God. to the exclusion of other gods or no god at all.
so you mark out "In God We Trust" on your dollar bills? Do you not trust Him?
I do not believe in the existence of any god and it's not the governments place to tell me that one exists or that that belief in one is the official government position.
Also you have not addressed my point about your strawman argument.
No one suggests that citizens can't place their religious sayings on their private property. The issue is government property. Do you admit that your opening remarks falsely characterized the situation?
I do not believe in the existence of any god and it's not the governments place to tell me that one exists or that that belief in one is the official government position.
You didn't answer his question. What do you do about the fact that money has the phrase "In God We Trust" on it?
If it's printed, by the government, on our money, what's the harm of having the same exact phrase hanging up in the Post Office?
How does one infringe on your rights, and the other not?
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