Origins TheologyForum for the discussion of Creation Science (Young/Old) vs Theistic Evolution. Discussion of Atheistic Evolution should be taken to the Discussion and Debate forums.
Yes, I'm frustrated. I have no objection to two sides. Frankly, the level of discussion in this forum is very low. In the similiar forum for non-Christians as well, what's the point of a Creationist even entering unless he wants to be flogged by a bunch of twits?
Why don't you present a topic or argument for discussion and include references and support for that topic or argument and take it from there?
Letting Evolutionists post in a Christian-only forum on Origins is like letting homosexual activists flood a Christian-only forum on morality. God is not being served.
Really? Since the "evolutionists" in question are Christians, you have a real problem here.
1. Evolution is not anti-Christian.
2. Accepting evolution immediately removes a person from Christianity.
Which do you think it is?
__________________ "If sound science appears to contradict the Bible, we may be sure that it is our interpretation of the Bible that is at fault." Christian Observer, 1832, pg. 437
"Christians should look on evolution simply as the method by which God works." Rev. James McCosh, theologian and President of Princeton, 1890
But, in the origin forum, there has been a failure to provide a productive place.
Please define "productive place". What do you consider "productive"? On a personal note, am I one of the "inane" that you don't want to discuss with?
__________________ "If sound science appears to contradict the Bible, we may be sure that it is our interpretation of the Bible that is at fault." Christian Observer, 1832, pg. 437
"Christians should look on evolution simply as the method by which God works." Rev. James McCosh, theologian and President of Princeton, 1890
Lewis, why are you not offended by the Evolutionists who, by flooding the forum with their inane spam, make intelligent debate nearly impossible? I have looked at some of your posts, and you do make some effort. So, why aren't you objecting to the noise level they bring?
What I see while reading these forums is a form of comradery, that is creationists stick together and evolutionists stick together. If a fellow creationists says something out of line you will hardly ever see another creationist admonish him and vise-versa for the evolutionists. Yes there are those on both sides who will step to the plate and take one for the team, as it's sometimes said, but by and large it seems as if no one is ever offended by what someone else in their group says about others who don't agree with their group. Maybe they are offended but just don't want to saything thing that might hurt their cause?
Anyway I see your opening statement as not being appropriate here. I don't see how someones belief in how God created have anything to do with whether they should be allowed to post here.
BTW, you said Creationism is a danger to Christianity. SOB SOB, you know, this still hurts no matter how many times I hear it.
I agree that for anyone to say that creationism is a danger to christianity is not appropriate either and hypocritical if they object to others who say what you said in your first post.
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Last edited by nephilimiyr; 3rd September 2003 at 04:23 PM.
Yes, I'm frustrated. I have no objection to two sides. Frankly, the level of discussion in this forum is very low. In the similiar forum for non-Christians as well, what's the point of a Creationist even entering unless he wants to be flogged by a bunch of twits?
Just because two people disagree with each other about a particular issue does not necessarily mean that either of them is a "twit"--or is not worthy of respect or consideration for that person's feelings and beliefs. Each of us have certain feelings and beliefs regarding issues that concern us. Hopefully, we have an underlying basis for those beliefs. If that underlying basis is true and reliable, it should be able to stand up to scrutiny and examination.
I suspect that may be one reason God has allowed so many verifications of the Bible to exist: As historical and scientific evidence repeatedly confirms the events and statements of the Bible, the truthfulness and reliability of the Bible is also confrmed and verified.
I suggest that if you think that scripture and science seem to be contradicting each other, it is very likely that you either do not understand what science is actually presenting or that you do not fully understand what the Bible may be saying--or both. In other words, it may be time to check both the most credible scientific sources available, and to check what the actual Hebrew or Greek scriptures say--and what the range of meanings is for the words and phrases in question.
I'm closing this thread since it's just an argument and certain people cannot refrain from calling people names.
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