The whore of Babylon and the anti-christ.

The logic is not that a prophet must be killed but all of them by means of the whore of Babylon so NYC is out as is anything in North America. Now it is considered a city but at best you would have to consider NYC a subsidiary of this entity.

The false prophet is also some non-human entity view in the context of the others IMHO.
Now understand that I do tend to go after people that do not provide resources to support their view or make rational aguments based upon it. I see lecoop posting scripture and making rational arguments and being attacked by those who do not.

Did we not see that about the great whore?

Rev 18
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

Once more, we see that the "great city," is Jerusalem.

Coop

Then it has nothing to do with having 7 heads. I also do not see the Vatican in charge of commerce, nor did it exist during the prophets and on and on...

How you can quote that scripture and wind up with a conclusion like that? Let's try reading the verse again:

Rev 18
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

Did that help?

33: You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell?
34: Therefore I send you prophets and wise men and scribes, some of whom you will kill and crucify, and some you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from town to town,
35: that upon you may come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of innocent Abel to the blood of Zechari'ah the son of Barachi'ah, whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the altar.
36: Truly, I say to you, all this will come upon this generation.
37: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, killing the prophets and stoning those who are sent to you! How often would I have gathered your children together as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you would not!

You are confused, the seven heads are seven mountains which the harlot sits on and which I gave bible refrence to.
The vatican dosn't have to be in charge of commerce or military Im speaking about the woman who rides the beast, not the beast.
You told me to please read carefully, but boy!

MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. could be the vatican which sits on seven hills or mountains.(the seven heads are seven mountains)

Gywn,

No one is laughing at anyone--but Jerusalem IS NOT Mystery Bablyon. It is not really even a viable candidate. It is true that it may not be NYC and could be another port city Miami, LA, SF. But you have to have a reality check with yourself and be open to changing positions when evidence reveals otherwise. I have done it on this board and you gain self-respect when you do. Just learn from others and you will grow when evidence shows otherwise. This is what it is all about...

Banking activities were sufficiently important in Babylonia in the second millennium b.c. that written standards of practice were considered necessary. These standards were part of the Code of Hammurabi � the earliest known formal laws. Obviously, these primitive banking transactions were very different in many ways to their modern-day counterparts. Deposits were not of money but of cattle, grain or other crops and eventually precious metals. Nevertheless, some of the basic concepts underlying today�s banking system were present in these ancient arrangements, however. A wide range of deposits was accepted, loans were made, and borrowers paid interest to lenders.[1]

18: And the woman that you saw is the great city which has dominion over the kings of the earth."

The English Revolution of 1642 was financed by the money changers backing Oliver Cromwell's successful attempt to purge the parliament and kill King Charles. What followed was 50 years of costly wars. Costly to those fighting them and profitable to those financing them.

So profitable that it allowed the money changers to take over a square mile of property still known as the City of London, which remains one of the three main financial centres in the world today.

The 50 years of war left England in financial ruin. The government officials went begging for loans from guess who, and the deal proposed resulted in a government sanctioned, privately owned bank which could produce money from nothing, essentially legally counterfeiting a national currency for private gain.

Now the politicians had a source from which to borrow all the money they wanted to borrow, and the debt created was secured against public taxes.

You would think someone would have seen through this, and realised they could produce their own money and owe no interest, but instead the Bank of England has been used as a model and now nearly every nation has a Central Bank with fractional reserve banking at its core.

These central banks have the power to take over a nations economy and become that nations real governing force. What we have here is a scam of mammoth proportions covering what is actually a hidden tax, being collected by private concerns.

The country sells bonds to the bank in return for money it cannot raise in taxes. The bonds are paid for by money produced from thin air. The government pays interest on the money it borrowed by borrowing more money in the same way. There is no way this debt can ever be paid, it has and will continue to increase.

If the government did find a way to pay off the debt, the result would be that there would be no bonds to back the currency, so to pay the debt would be to kill the currency.

With its formation the Bank of England soon flooded Britain with money. With no quality control and no insistence on value for money, prices doubled with money being thrown in every direction.

23: and the light of a lamp shall shine in thee no more; and the voice of bridegroom and bride shall be heard in thee no more; for thy merchants were the great men of the earth, and all nations were deceived by thy sorcery.

"Most Americans have no real understanding of the operation of the international money lenders. The accounts of the Federal Reserve System have never been audited. It operates outside the control of Congress and manipulates the credit of the United States" -- Sen. Barry Goldwater (Rep. AR)

8: And he said, "This is Wickedness." And he thrust her back into the ephah, and thrust down the leaden weight upon its mouth.
9: Then I lifted my eyes and saw, and behold, two women coming forward! The wind was in their wings; they had wings like the wings of a stork, and they lifted up the ephah between earth and heaven.
10: Then I said to the angel who talked with me, "Where are they taking the ephah?"
11: He said to me, "To the land of Shinar, to build a house for it; and when this is prepared, they will set the ephah down there on its base."

To consider the 7 mountains heaps of dirt and rock leaves the Beast complety out of context.
They are heaps of dirt and rock, they are also rome where the vatican sits
You are attempting to fuse the two images together using a literal method in one case and allgorical in another. The Beast is obviously not a literal mountain since it is described in chapter 13. So this interpretation does not incline me to believe a contextual reading of Revelation hence my intitial comment. The Vatican also flunks on the killing of the prophets.
Rome did kill prophets and martyrs, and they along with the religious elite of Jerusalem killed the Lord. False religion was in rome before there was someone called pope or a place called vatican.
And vatican certinally does influence nations and especially europe today.