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I like spelling Baby lon this way; I believe Baby lon is the total religious, political and economical systems of man.

Anti Christ or anti anointing same thing; if you reject God's anointing you are anti Christ. In other words if you follow religion without and not Christ with in.

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Old 26th May 2007, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by lecoop View Post
"MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH," is "that great city." All we have to do is read. The first verse we read of her in Revelation is this:

Revelation 17

1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:

We see that she is sitting on many waters, meaning that she is sitting on many nations, peoples, and languages.

3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

She sits upon a beast.

4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication

She looks pretty, but is filthy. She is DEEP into the worship of false gods. In fact, she is the mother [or the very worst] of this false worship.

6And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

She persecutes God's kids.

9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
10 And there are seven kings:..

The woman was sitting on a beast, and the beast had seven heads. The heads are seven mountains, or seven significant end time nations, with seven kings. (Every nation today has some kind of a leader.)

16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

The whore's end is to be burned with fire. "Religion" cannot be "burned" with fire. "She" is to represent something that can burn.

18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

Now we know: the woman, Mystery Babylon, is a city! But not just any city: no, she is "that great city." Now, which city would God call "that great city?" John tells us:

Revelation 11:8
And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

We see then, that "that great city," is none other than Jerusalem. Wait! There is still more proof:

Revelation 14:8
And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

Where will the abomination event occur? Of course in Jerusalem. Where will the image of the beast be, that everyone will be forced to worship? Of course, in Jerusalem. The mark of the beast will be enforced from Jerusalem. Therefore, this great fornication, the worship of the great dragon, in the place of the Most High God, will origination and be propagated from Jerusalem!

Mat. 23

34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: 35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

Did we not see that about the great whore?

Rev 18
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

Once more, we see that the "great city," is Jerusalem.

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Originally Posted by lecoop View Post
"MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH," is "that great city." All we have to do is read. The first verse we read of her in Revelation is this:

Revelation 17

1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:

We see that she is sitting on many waters, meaning that she is sitting on many nations, peoples, and languages.

3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

She sits upon a beast.

4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication

She looks pretty, but is filthy. She is DEEP into the worship of false gods. In fact, she is the mother [or the very worst] of this false worship.

6And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

She persecutes God's kids.

9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
10 And there are seven kings:..

The woman was sitting on a beast, and the beast had seven heads. The heads are seven mountains, or seven significant end time nations, with seven kings. (Every nation today has some kind of a leader.)

16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

The whore's end is to be burned with fire. "Religion" cannot be "burned" with fire. "She" is to represent something that can burn.

18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

Now we know: the woman, Mystery Babylon, is a city! But not just any city: no, she is "that great city." Now, which city would God call "that great city?" John tells us:

Revelation 11:8
And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

We see then, that "that great city," is none other than Jerusalem. Wait! There is still more proof:

Revelation 14:8
And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

Where will the abomination event occur? Of course in Jerusalem. Where will the image of the beast be, that everyone will be forced to worship? Of course, in Jerusalem. The mark of the beast will be enforced from Jerusalem. Therefore, this great fornication, the worship of the great dragon, in the place of the Most High God, will origination and be propagated from Jerusalem!

Mat. 23

34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: 35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

Did we not see that about the great whore?

Rev 18
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

Once more, we see that the "great city," is Jerusalem.

Coop
You are actually going to use scripture to support your views? The madness. This one is a good theory.
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Originally Posted by good4u View Post
Coop, you are wrong as rain--as usual. It is not Jerusalem then and it is not now.

It may not be NYC, tho' a very good guess, but I gurantee you it never will be Jerusalem.

But you are entitled to your wrong conclusions.
It certainly is not NYC since there was not a single prophet in North America. So I would not ride anyone too hard were I you. As to Jerusalem it does seem to be called spiritual Sodom and Gomorrah. Hosea was told to marry a Harlot to symbolize the relationship.
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Revelation 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

1 RC bishops and cardinals are arrayed in purple and scarlet colour. (the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour)
2 When a RC priest performs mass his outer vest is adorned in these jewels.( and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls)
3 The priest during mass gives his parisheners bread from a golden cup claiming it to be the body of Christ.(abominations and filthiness of her fornication)

MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. could be rome or more precisely the vatican which sits on seven hills or mountains.(the seven heads are seven mountains)
The seven mountains is THE BEAST that the harlot sits on. Please read carefully. If you are trying to inquire what is the Beast then by all means consider Rome as a possibilty.
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I did confuse the last sentence in #24
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I didn't mention the beast, my post was to show who the harlot babylon is, and my opinion is that it is vatican - papacy.
Then it has nothing to do with having 7 heads. I also do not see the Vatican in charge of commerce, nor did it exist during the prophets and on and on...
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I did confuse the last sentence in #24
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It certainly is not NYC since there was not a single prophet in North America. So I would not ride anyone too hard were I you. As to Jerusalem it does seem to be called spiritual Sodom and Gomorrah. Hosea was told to marry a Harlot to symbolize the relationship.
Let me put it this way, not a prophet in North America --yet. That is the operative word and it may be that THE FALSE PROPHET will originate from this country. I have my reasons. Not only is Jerusalem mentioned as "Sodom and Gomorrah" and NOT Mystery Bablyon which is found in Revelation.

Coop is in his own little world when it comes to prophecy. You get use to him. Like others I will not mention...if you stay long enough.
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Let me put it this way, not a prophet in North America --yet. That is the operative word and it may be that THE FALSE PROPHET will originate from this country. I have my reasons. Not only is Jerusalem mentioned as "Sodom and Gomorrah" and NOT Mystery Bablyon which is found in Revelation.

Coop is in his own little world when it comes to prophecy. You get use to him. Like others I will not mention...if you stay long enough.
The logic is not that a prophet must be killed but all of them by means of the whore of Babylon so NYC is out as is anything in North America. Now it is considered a city but at best you would have to consider NYC a subsidiary of this entity.

The false prophet is also some non-human entity view in the context of the others IMHO.
Now understand that I do tend to go after people that do not provide resources to support their view or make rational aguments based upon it. I see lecoop posting scripture and making rational arguments and being attacked by those who do not.
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