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31st May 2007, 03:16 AM
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Reps: 103,285,041,613,560,896 (power: 103,285,041,613,600) | | Originally Posted by HisdaughterJen  I don't understand.
Those in the world know that I am different from them. They don't have a difficult time identifying me as a follower of our Lord Jesus.
Are you sure?
Can the world simply glance at you and say "Oh, there's a Christian"?
No ,. . . .
The WORLD does not know you are a christian . . some few people might, but the WORLD does not know . . . And JW's feel the same way...
And Baptists feel the same way...
And Methodists feel the same way...
The point is that one denomination is not more holy in the eyes of our Lord than another. We are all the same in His sight because He sees our heart.
All believers are the same in HIS sight, that doesn't make them all a CITY set on a HILL that fits the description Jesus gave in scripture for the WORLD'S benefit.
The city set on a hill speaks of a VISIBLE ENTITY .. something easily identifiable . . .
Only the Catholic Church is that.
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__________________ Theotokos, my mother, you who bore the Lord our God in your womb, you the gate through which he entered into the world lift my prayers up to your Son. Daughter of Zion, I want to eat of this blessed fruit, the blessed fruit of your womb, who hung on a tree, who's flesh is food indeed and blood is drink indeed. The Cross became the tree of life, the altar of our High Priest and Paschal Lamb. Theotokos! Theotokos! Most blessed of all women, pray for me, a sinner
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31st May 2007, 03:16 AM
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Reps: 40,143,535,222,134,136 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by thereselittleflower You have just proven why this cannot be referring to Rome, for the Catholic Church to be involved, you have to have EIGHT Hills . . . not just 7 , . .
The Catholic Church and Rome does not fit this passage . . . .
The Catholic Church is Her own COUNTRY . . She is not part of Rome, and so Her seat of power cannot be Rome . . .
You need EIGHT hills now to make this work even superficially . . .
You only have SEVEN . . . and the Catholic Church is not on those seven ,. . . 
You are mincing words....
Like I said, the Roman empire has morphed into the Holy Roman empire which morphed into the Roman Catholic Church but the seat is still Rome....Vatican City may call herself an independent state today but it is still the ROMAN Catholic Church from the Holy Roman Empire from the Roman empire. |
31st May 2007, 03:18 AM
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Reps: 40,143,535,222,134,136 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by thereselittleflower Are you sure?
Can the world simply glance at you and say "Oh, there's a Christian"?
No ,. . . .
The WORLD does not know you are a christian . . some few people might, but the WORLD does not know . . .
All believers are the same in HIS sight, that doesn't make them all a CITY set on a HILL that fits the description Jesus gave in scripture for the WORLD'S benefit.
The city set on a hill speaks of a VISIBLE ENTITY .. something easily identifiable . . .
Only the Catholic Church is that.
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Yes, I'm afaid so...people can take one look at me and see my light shining...joy, patience, goodness, faithfulness, self-control, love, kindness. |
31st May 2007, 03:18 AM
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Reps: 141,033,213 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by thereselittleflower
To be a good Catholic one must be faithful to Jesus and keep His commandments .. .
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To be faithful to Jesus and keep His commandments, one doesn't even need to be Catholic.
I am a living testimony that no building can save. I was a good catholic, and I had no peace, no Jesus, no nothing. |
31st May 2007, 03:21 AM
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Reps: 103,285,041,613,560,896 (power: 103,285,041,613,600) | | Originally Posted by HisdaughterJen Yes, I'm afaid so...people can take one look at me and see my light shining...joy, patience, goodness, faithfulness, self-control, love, kindness.
No . . . they may be able to see somethng different about you, but they can't identify that it is Chirst without first getting to know you . . .
Others from different religions can also set themselve apart that way . .. .
The JW that came to my door was a lovely, loving lady, full of joy, patience, goodness, faithfulness, self control, love and kindness .. .
Buddhists can exhibit the same characteristics . . .
And your point is?
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__________________ Theotokos, my mother, you who bore the Lord our God in your womb, you the gate through which he entered into the world lift my prayers up to your Son. Daughter of Zion, I want to eat of this blessed fruit, the blessed fruit of your womb, who hung on a tree, who's flesh is food indeed and blood is drink indeed. The Cross became the tree of life, the altar of our High Priest and Paschal Lamb. Theotokos! Theotokos! Most blessed of all women, pray for me, a sinner
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31st May 2007, 03:21 AM
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Reps: 141,033,213 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by thereselittleflower Are you sure?
Can the world simply glance at you and say "Oh, there's a Christian"?
No ,. . . .
The WORLD does not know you are a christian . . some few people might, but the WORLD does not know . . .
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So if there is someone in the world who doesn't know if you are a christian, then your church is wrong?
That seems to be your point.
The world knew I was Catholic, and that I did not know Jesus in any way. |
31st May 2007, 03:22 AM
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Reps: 103,285,041,613,560,896 (power: 103,285,041,613,600) | | Originally Posted by HisdaughterJen You are mincing words....
Like I said, the Roman empire has morphed into the Holy Roman empire which morphed into the Roman Catholic Church but the seat is still Rome....Vatican City may call herself an independent state today but it is still the ROMAN Catholic Church from the Holy Roman Empire from the Roman empire.
You have now entered into the logical fallacy of the circular argument. . .
You are using your conclusion as evidence . . .
that makes it logically invalid.
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__________________ Theotokos, my mother, you who bore the Lord our God in your womb, you the gate through which he entered into the world lift my prayers up to your Son. Daughter of Zion, I want to eat of this blessed fruit, the blessed fruit of your womb, who hung on a tree, who's flesh is food indeed and blood is drink indeed. The Cross became the tree of life, the altar of our High Priest and Paschal Lamb. Theotokos! Theotokos! Most blessed of all women, pray for me, a sinner
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31st May 2007, 03:22 AM
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Reps: 141,033,213 (power: 0) | | | You seem to be saying if we wear a t shirt that says I am a Christian, then that will suffice.
Or we should take out an ad in the paper announcing to the world we are THE church. |
31st May 2007, 03:24 AM
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Reps: 40,143,535,222,134,136 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by thereselittleflower No . . . they may be able to see somethng different about you, but they can't identify that it is Chirst without first getting to know you . . .
Others from different religions can also set themselve apart that way . .. .
The JW that came to my door was a lovely, loving lady, full of joy, patience, goodness, faithfulness, self control, love and kindness .. .
Buddhists can exhibit the same characteristics . . .
And your point is?
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So all you have to do is tell people you're Catholic....? |
31st May 2007, 03:24 AM
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Reps: 141,033,213 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by thereselittleflower You have now entered into the logical fallacy of the circular argument. . .
You are using your conclusion as evidence . . .
that makes it logically invalid.
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There you go Jen. All whp disagree with the catholic church are invalid. We may as well give up and admit we are not christians. Or partly christians. or an invalid church.
No, that won't do, we know we are members of the only true church. | | |
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