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If God saves people through his Grace only, then why doesn't He just save everyone. No, people have to come to Him. If I can guide a few towards Him, then I think this will be a good thing.
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I have one other dream. This was about 4 yrs ago.

I have a dog that's 11 yrs old. In this dream, I'm in Kremmling, CO and were stopped at a stop sign, I'm driving, and I see a cat across the road and my dog start going crazy, seeing this cat. I know her, when she does that she wants to chase. I turn and this person opens the door and my dog jumps out and runs across the road. Wham! A truck hits her. Now I jump out, balling my eyes out because I know she's dead (I'm crying as I write this), and I run over to her and she's dead and I understand that this is the time where everything is set in motion. Events around the world start to change drastically up to the point of the "asteroid dream".

This is only the second time I've told this. It sealed it for me. This was third in order dream, and to me things work in numbers a lot, so it has great significance.

I found this video on You Tube today that is really close to what I saw. I think the asteroid may be a bit bigger in the video, but it's spooky how close it looks. And at the end, the way the earth looks crusty is exactly what I saw in the second dream.

It's in Japanese, and it's pretty scary, so if this offends you, I wouldn't watch it. If you speak Japanese, I'd sure like to know what their saying generally. Again I'm not trying to scare people, but it's interesting that someone else has seen almost exactly what I saw.



One note. In my dream I'm aware there's more than one, and they are about 1-2 miles in diameter. I'm feel that there are places that don't get affected as badly, but I'm pretty sure it's a worldwide event.

There will be people who survive, because God hides them, or puts them in places to escape death and major harm. For those be the remnant. For some reason, He seems to hide some of those who don't believe in God too. For them, it's a test, a very difficult one. And they try to fight the remnant, but God protects them in His mysterious way. Many, will STILL not believe in God.

After some time, not sure how long really, Hell is opened and the souls are raised to heaven for something like a second judgement/second death. Satan and all of his followers will be cast in the lake of fire. This is when our past will be examined in a way that we feel the effects on other people from our actions. The second death is final. We either go on to study with Jesus, in the New Jerusalem, or we don't. Many are already with Jesus, and are waiting for this time, when we will all be reunited on a grand spiritual level. After 1000 yrs, our "training" will be finished and we will move to a higher spiritual level. There are 7 levels of spiritual awareness. The 7th level is God's realm.

It was revealed to me that the gray aliens are us, from the second level of spiritual awareness. There may be other or even all levels visiting earth, because it's a truly unique place, the birthplace of an extremely complex, highly spiritual race of beings. Everything was put on earth for us.

Machinery is a big part of higher spiritual levels. Hence the vision of Ezekiel. And 1000's of other accounts of unexplainable craft.

So this is pretty much what has been revealed to me. I have posted in good faith, God forgive me if I'm wrong, God forgive me if I'm right.
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Originally Posted by oneofGod View Post
I have one other dream. This was about 4 yrs ago.

I have a dog that's 11 yrs old. In this dream, I'm in Kremmling, CO and were stopped at a stop sign, I'm driving, and I see a cat across the road and my dog start going crazy, seeing this cat. I know her, when she does that she wants to chase. I turn and this person opens the door and my dog jumps out and runs across the road. Wham! A truck hits her. Now I jump out, balling my eyes out because I know she's dead (I'm crying as I write this), and I run over to her and she's dead and I understand that this is the time where everything is set in motion. Events around the world start to change drastically up to the point of the "asteroid dream".

This is only the second time I've told this. It sealed it for me. This was third in order dream, and to me things work in numbers a lot, so it has great significance.

I found this video on You Tube today that is really close to what I saw. I think the asteroid may be a bit bigger in the video, but it's spooky how close it looks. And at the end, the way the earth looks crusty is exactly what I saw in the second dream.

It's in Japanese, and it's pretty scary, so if this offends you, I wouldn't watch it. If you speak Japanese, I'd sure like to know what their saying generally. Again I'm not trying to scare people, but it's interesting that someone else has seen almost exactly what I saw.



One note. In my dream I'm aware there's more than one, and they are about 1-2 miles in diameter. I'm feel that there are places that don't get affected as badly, but I'm pretty sure it's a worldwide event.

There will be people who survive, because God hides them, or puts them in places to escape death and major harm. For those be the remnant. For some reason, He seems to hide some of those who don't believe in God too. For them, it's a test, a very difficult one. And they try to fight the remnant, but God protects them in His mysterious way. Many, will STILL not believe in God.

After some time, not sure how long really, Hell is opened and the souls are raised to heaven for something like a second judgement/second death. Satan and all of his followers will be cast in the lake of fire. This is when our past will be examined in a way that we feel the effects on other people from our actions. The second death is final. We either go on to study with Jesus, in the New Jerusalem, or we don't. Many are already with Jesus, and are waiting for this time, when we will all be reunited on a grand spiritual level. After 1000 yrs, our "training" will be finished and we will move to a higher spiritual level. There are 7 levels of spiritual awareness. The 7th level is God's realm.

It was revealed to me that the gray aliens are us, from the second level of spiritual awareness. There may be other or even all levels visiting earth, because it's a truly unique place, the birthplace of an extremely complex, highly spiritual race of beings. Everything was put on earth for us.

Machinery is a big part of higher spiritual levels. Hence the vision of Ezekiel. And 1000's of other accounts of unexplainable craft.

So this is pretty much what has been revealed to me. I have posted in good faith, God forgive me if I'm wrong, God forgive me if I'm right.
Wow, that was scary looking. Jesus said that everything would be dark and he would descend from the clouds though. Also, Peter said, when he was talking of the second coming, to remember that 1000 years to God can be 1day to man and 1 day to God can be 1000 years to us. Plus, it says that in Revelation and that's pretty hard to understand. It doesn't matter though. It won't change what actually happens.

You have a whole different view of things than anyone I've ever met. I never thought of aliens like that. I, personally, don't even believe in aliens. (Even though I've seen something weird.) If you read in Revelation, you will see that the four creatures in Ezekiel are actually not aliens. They sit next to God's thrown. I'm not gonna get caught up in this kind of stuff though. My goals are to have a strong relationship with God, always be prepared for the second coming, and bring sinners to repentance. There's nothing wrong with what you're doing. My calling is different than yours. I've been called to bring people to Jesus. My favorite books of the Bible are the four Gospels. I love reading Jesus' teachings.
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If God saves people through his Grace only, then why doesn't He just save everyone. No, people have to come to Him. If I can guide a few towards Him, then I think this will be a good thing.
I am not sure what you want here. Do you want me to tell you that God does not save people, but you do? Do you want me to pretend that I am saying we should not preach the message of Christ? Do you wish for me to tell you that matters of the flesh are more important then the salvation of the souls?

Do you want me to say that it is impossible for God to save everyone?

Do you want me to tell you that the flesh understands the words of the Spirit?

That "many are called, but few are chosen"... was not said?

If you can guide a few to God, that is a good thing... but make no mistake about it, it would be God acting through you doing this.

Romans 11:
5So too, at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace. 6And if by grace, then it is no longer by works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace.

Ephesians 2:
8For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9not by works, so that no one can boast.

This is basic doctrine, the message of grace by God.

Surely, do good in the world. Does not doing good in the world speak of God, who is good.

If that is your talent, then do these things. Speak to the world of God through these things... and if they turn out to be untrue, then you should let it go. If they are true, then by all means, hold on to it.

I do not know... I do not have anything else to say here, really, we can agree to disagree.
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Originally Posted by oneofGod View Post

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It was revealed to me that the gray aliens are us, from the second level of spiritual awareness. There may be other or even all levels visiting earth, because it's a truly unique place, the birthplace of an extremely complex, highly spiritual race of beings. Everything was put on earth for us.
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Whitley Streiber said that in one of his Communion books... (he was an author of Wolfen and some other works who claimed to be abducted by aliens and wrote, basically, more horror stories, only he claimed these were real...)

The ice thing comes from Vonnegut... ice to Africa...

The illuminati bit from Tex Marrs...

The line about the only real prophets left are science fiction writers, I think from L Ron Hubbard, I am not sure but I had a friend tell me that very same line in 92. (BTW... one of many things I never bothered to point out)...

A google shows some similiar quote from Hubbard, maybe the exact one was by another... science fiction writer (Orson Scott Card?)

God can use popular culture, because Christians write those screenplays and books. You do not throw your diamonds to dogs, lest they turn and rend you. (No, not all writers and such are Christians, of course. Granted, US still has 79% some odd Americans at least saying they are Christians when asked...)

Those writers (except Orson Scott Card), however... were absolutely not Christians.

As for the defense argument, heard that before. Nations are supposed to have national defense. Sure, we may be with some bloat in the government, but what should we do, increase the size of it to have more programs? And why America as the boogeyman here? Did you know there are many totalitarian countries on the face of the planet?

I do not know. Once you find some of these ideas of his were false or first reported elsewhere, are you ever going to be able to discard them as such?

Or... are you somehow trapped... always forced to believe everything he said, yet knowing you can not because you know he said untrue things?

If I say something ludicrous like "the sky is purple" and add something deeply true like "God is love", which of these statements is true? Must both statements be true? If I say something absurd with a straight face, I expect people to understand I am joking.

When Jesus said "make sure and do everything the Pharisees say to do..." He was joking, He was being sarcastic.

As for you saying 'the youth getting this stuff'... that concerns me.

I take it you are going to conspiracy sites and telling them this stuff and they are getting into it. That kind of youth?

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I don't know. You seem really firmly entrenched in this stuff and do not budge regardless of the reasoning people give you. You seem to have a good heart... and I wonder about this odd reflex of yours... but personally, I do not seeing you conceding anything... nothing...

Personally, I am going to have step away from this myself. I am not going to offer anything else here or try and persuade you on any manner again for quite sometime. You can say we can agree to disagree. Just, this is not going anywhere.
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I can understand if you reject this. It's not what people like to hear.

When God created earth, the Word existed. The Word, is God's law, like the ten commandments. This is a universal law. There are countless other beings in the universe, but we are the only being created in God's image. Therefore, we are truly unique, and most precious to God.

Because God is just and loving, not only to us, but to all beings, God follows his own laws too. These universal laws will only be understood when we advance spiritually, with Jesus.

The only way I can explain these laws is to use our own bodies as an example. When we get sick, we have beings in our bodies that battle with the beings that are attacking our body. Hopefully to healthy beings overcome the attackers.

Now galaxies, such as the milky way are cells. The sun is the nucleus, and earth is an atom with the moon being an electron.
We are the body of Jesus. We are the defenders of the body of Jesus. When God says He knows every hair on our head, He not only knows every hair, but every atom in that hair, and the life that exists on and in the atom on that hair.

When God said He gave us his only begotten son, He meant it literally. Jesus is God, and the keeper of Earth. God and Jesus are two different beings, but of course, family. Only through Jesus, will we be saved. So our relationship with Jesus is not only crucial to us, but to God too.

Now in reality, is so much more complex than this that we can't understand it. But this is what my visions have revealed, over the last couple of years.

What we go through in this life, will seem so minute, in our overall existence, but it is absolutely critical, because our existence depends upon it. Let's keep Jesus healthy. We, are also family.
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I can understand if you reject this. It's not what people like to hear.

When God created earth, the Word existed. The Word, is God's law, like the ten commandments. This is a universal law. There are countless other beings in the universe, but we are the only being created in God's image. Therefore, we are truly unique, and most precious to God.

Because God is just and loving, not only to us, but to all beings, God follows his own laws too. These universal laws will only be understood when we advance spiritually, with Jesus.

The only way I can explain these laws is to use our own bodies as an example. When we get sick, we have beings in our bodies that battle with the beings that are attacking our body. Hopefully to healthy beings overcome the attackers.

Now galaxies, such as the milky way are cells. The sun is the nucleus, and earth is an atom with the moon being an electron.
We are the body of Jesus. We are the defenders of the body of Jesus. When God says He knows every hair on our head, He not only knows every hair, but every atom in that hair, and the life that exists on and in the atom on that hair.

When God said He gave us his only begotten son, He meant it literally. Jesus is God, and the keeper of Earth. God and Jesus are two different beings, but of course, family. Only through Jesus, will we be saved. So our relationship with Jesus is not only crucial to us, but to God too.

Now in reality, is so much more complex than this that we can't understand it. But this is what my visions have revealed, over the last couple of years.

What we go through in this life, will seem so minute, in our overall existence, but it is absolutely critical, because our existence depends upon it. Let's keep Jesus healthy. We, are also family.

What does any of this (except the part about salvation through Jesus Christ) have to do with anything? How does it lead people to God? How how does it reveal truth? How does it glorifiy God. How does it accomplish anything? As anonymousadviser pointed out, what you are teaching is not new but old. The universe representing the cell is something that I heard long ago when I was a new ager. And that is what that teaching is, new age. Jesus Christ is the word of God. The bible is also the word of God. His Words and His Spirit change people, nothing else. You say you want to lead people to God, how do you think you can do that? What is it that you are teaching that will lead anyone to salvation? Does anything you are bringing forth glorify Jesus Christ, or does it glorify you? Its one or the other.



Joh 1:1-3,14
(1) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
(2) He was in the beginning with God.
(3) All things came into being through Him, and without Him not even one thing came into being that has come into being............
(14) And the Word became flesh, and tabernacled among us. And we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and of truth.


Joh 15:3
(3)Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.


2Ti 3:14-17
(14) But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
(15) And that from a child thou hast known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
(16) All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
(17) That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.


2Co 11:3
(3) But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.


Gal 5:9
(9) A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.

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