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I dont know who is right but i can see where the difference in thinking is between the two of you
oneofGod :
On a table there is a red flower and a purple flower, a rose and a violet.
Two statements of the same thing one a description the other what it is.
Yours :
On a table is a rose and a violet, and a tulip and a daisy.
You see you are both reading the same thing but seeing it two different ways. that is why we must search the scripture further and deeper when seeking Truth !! There seems to always be a scripture that backs another scripture sometimes it takes two or three before we are given understanding.
I will step back out and watch and see how it comes out. either way God is smiling at you both for wrestling and seeking His Truth !! God be with you both !!
Dont let it turn mean remember we are brothers in Christ and we are seeking Gods Truth together !!
Wow! We are not talking about pronouns and proper nouns here! We are talking about serious, blatant oppositions to the bible, that are being considered as truth. The bible speaks of one who has come to kill, steal, and destroy. If we throw our biblical discernment out the window, we will load the gun and hand it to the enemy.
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millerrod, your right on. Your perception is definitely God inspired. And livingword, I totally respect your stance on this. Bill is very controversial, and it was I difficult time for me.
I came onto this forum, with Bill sitting beside me. He didn't know how to use a computer, but he was fascinated with the internet. Anyway, people were downright mean. People with christian next to there name. They called us crazy, and stupid, and everything else, and basically asked us to leave. So I did, and went to ATS, because there people don't already know everything. I didn't reveal my dreams in the first thread though.
Some critisisim is warrented, but the utter inhospitable treatment really shocked me. It has driven me away from christians. It was the churches, that persecuted Jesus. They thought Jesus was being blasphemous when He claimed to be the son of God, quoting the bible, or Torah in those days. But the Bible specifically says we are all children of God. So who was interpreting it right.
For this reason, Jesus simplified it for us. Love God with all your heart, and love your neighbor.
The first is easy, the second is much, much harder. And I must say, we are failing miserably.
Now, there are things to do.
California is a shelf. This shelf is going to be a giant landslide. The earthquake are because there is so much weight from all the concrete. The ensuing tidle wave will be devastating. Wouldn't want to be in Vegas when this hits. Hawaii either.
I can't say when exactly, but within the next five years.
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millerrod, your right on. Your perception is definitely God inspired. And livingword, I totally respect your stance on this. Bill is very controversial, and it was I difficult time for me.
I came onto this forum, with Bill sitting beside me. He didn't know how to use a computer, but he was fascinated with the internet. Anyway, people were downright mean. People with christian next to there name. They called us crazy, and stupid, and everything else, and basically asked us to leave. So I did, and went to ATS, because there people don't already know everything. I didn't reveal my dreams in the first thread though.
Some critisisim is warrented, but the utter inhospitable treatment really shocked me. It has driven me away from christians. It was the churches, that persecuted Jesus. They thought Jesus was being blasphemous when He claimed to be the son of God, quoting the bible, or Torah in those days. But the Bible specifically says we are all children of God. So who was interpreting it right.
Only those who have received Jesus Christ have become sons of God.
Joh 1:11-12
(11) He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
(12) But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
For this reason, Jesus simplified it for us. Love God with all your heart, and love your neighbor.
The first is easy, the second is much, much harder. And I must say, we are failing miserably.
Now, there are things to do.
California is a shelf. This shelf is going to be a giant landslide. The earthquake are because there is so much weight from all the concrete. The ensuing tidle wave will be devastating. Wouldn't want to be in Vegas when this hits. Hawaii either.
I can't say when exactly, but within the next five years.
I've been hearing the California falling into the ocean theory for 20 years, since back when I was in the new age. We'll see. In the grand scheme of things, it is really irrelevant, because far worse things are going to come upon the earth before Jesus returns. The important thing is getting the truth out to everyone that we can.
2Pe 3:10-13
(10) But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
(11) Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
(12) Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
(13) Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
OneofGod, for some reason, I don't get a bad feeling about you or any confusion, but I do with that homeless man. I don't think he is okay. What he said doesn't feel right. The Holy Spirit speaks to us in many ways. I have recently discovered his main way of speaking to us and that is in our spirit. It is a knowing. For example, I know that there's a girl in my school that I'm going to eventually be witnessing to. I've prayed and still pray many times for God's Wisdom and Discernment. I believe he has answered that because now, I am seeing things. Now, back to the homeless man, I get that feeling like when the Holy Spirit speaks to me and it's saying that he's bad. Of course, we must discern for ourselves. Just trying to keep you safe.
OneofGod, for some reason, I don't get a bad feeling about you or any confusion, but I do with that homeless man. I don't think he is okay. What he said doesn't feel right. The Holy Spirit speaks to us in many ways. I have recently discovered his main way of speaking to us and that is in our spirit. It is a knowing. For example, I know that there's a girl in my school that I'm going to eventually be witnessing to. I've prayed and still pray many times for God's Wisdom and Discernment. I believe he has answered that because now, I am seeing things. Now, back to the homeless man, I get that feeling like when the Holy Spirit speaks to me and it's saying that he's bad. Of course, we must discern for ourselves. Just trying to keep you safe.
I would just note here -- it is crucial to not rely on sheer instrinct alone, or feelings, as they say. We may have these, but the Christian faith is one of light, of knowledge, and of justice. This means when we make accusations, they must be valid; when we make judgements, they must be sure.
Everything from God may be reasoned. The truth defeats all arguments. One thing I have always seen with the Word -- it is the truth and the truth always wins out.
In argumentation, for instance, we must provide as much evidence as we can. Of whatever we can. Why do we say something. We do we judge something negatively or positively, right or wrong... God should always leave use with facts, evidence... the children of darkness, however rely on darkness... on slander... on intmidation... on every manner of wickedness to make their points -- because their points are not grounded in truth.
This is especially true when talking to people. I have found, over the years, on whatever matter it is... this is how things come down to it.
This said, we should listen to what our hearts say, but we must listen to it well enough to know exactly what the Spirit is saying... and at all times be mindful of Scripture.
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Joh 19:25
(25) Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother(1), and his mother's sister(2), Mary the wife of Cleophas(3), and Mary Magdalene(4).
Jesus mother(1) is listed, and Mary Magdalene(4) is listed. How can they be one and the same if they are listed separately in the same sentence?
This is true. I do not see where this is refuted in that post. Also there seems to be some confusion about some of these other Scriptures:
Matthew 27:
"55Many women were there, watching from a distance. They had followed Jesus from Galilee to care for his needs. 56Among them were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee's sons."
Jesus did have brothers, as well, it should be noted. The above verse refers to his brothers, James and Joses (Joseph). His brothers of the flesh. Not to some other Mary.
The books of Jude and James were bother written by brothers of the flesh of Jesus...
Maybe I trust people too much. I've always given people the benefit of not being judged by their looks, etc.
What I don't think is being understood, is I'm not basing my beliefs on what Bill said. I had all of these dreams before Bill showed up. Bill was fascinating, and so I researched and wrote down what he said.
What I can say is Bill was not your average homeless man. He was introduced to me at a very critical time, so this was no coincidence. And I don't believe Bill had any evil purpose.
The reason for revealing these dreams, are for people to see this and prepare. There are way to many out there who think they are going to heaven when they aren't. The path is very narrow.
What hurts me is that people love to jump on the negative. Not one person has tried to look into some of the good stuff Bill had to say. Can the plum cure AIDS? Can we move chunks of ice to Africa to irrigate it.
Should hybrid cars have two battery banks, one being charged while the other is being used.
I think Bills purpose may have been to point out the shortfalls of mankind. He spoke of God swishing his arm and bringing a wave over the West Coast.
No matter what, my first dream continues to come true. I am on the right path to see that dream fulfilled.
I want to clarify something. I stated, I may be a prophet. I don't think that, I just think that I have received prophesy, and I'm doing God's will by revealing it for all to see, to the best of my ability.
Look up the dreams in the bible. These correlate with the bible on many levels. I think this is what people should concentrate on. I appreciate warnings about Bill.
But don’t worry about me, I have God’s armor.
Keep this in mind. Every time you pick up the bible, it tests your faith. Some passages are clear, like “thou shalt not kill” right? Well, kill what? Anything?
If that’s the case every time we hit a bug with our windshield, we are breaking a commandment. And if you step on an ant….deadant, deadant.
Anonymous is right. Your instinct is the spirit talking to you. Learn to tune into instinct, and you will find your guidance. If your not sure your reading of your instinct is in accordance with God’s will, then look to the bible for guidance. Pretty sure this was the message that Bill wanted to get across.
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