A Dream From God?

livingword26 · #**141** 5th June 2007, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by oneofGod

OK, now I'm mad
This is my last post.
Lord, I have revealed this like you asked.
Like you said, they already know everything,
Christians are all the same. They don't need to be saved.
Good luck with yourselves. Not one word I've said has sunk in has it.
Just because you can read the bible, does not make you saved.
Do the works.

And oh, buy the way, when your sitting in your big fancy million dollar churches, remember how many mouths that can feed.
Puke.

If you want to get mad because we don't agree with you, and holler puke, that is your right, but I think that this is something that you should look at carefully. The bible says that we will be know by our fruit. If you want to get made because we have chosen to believe the bible and the Holy Spirit within ourselves instead of your teachings that do not line up with the scripture, that is your right also. But don't fool yourself into thinking that you are on some mission from God and we are just idiots that cannot understand your message. Your message is false. I am sorry that makes you angry, but as I said before to you and now to Millerrod, allowing false teachings to go unchallenged is not good for you, me or anyone else that may be reading this thread. There are 140 posts trying to convince you of your errors, and no one has lashed out at you like you just did to us. If you can't deal with the truth, I don't know how to help you my friend.

2Ti 4:1-4
(1) I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
(2) Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
(3) For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
(4) And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

livingword26 · #**142** 5th June 2007, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by oneofGod

And oh, buy the way, when your sitting in your big fancy million dollar churches, remember how many mouths that can feed.
Puke.

Oh, and by the way. I live in a 12' x 50' trailer house that someone from my small church gave me, because I had nothing when I came to Christ.

millerrod · #**143** 5th June 2007, 06:34 PM

Livingword i will not argue with you yes we must stand against false teaching and you did and you did and you did and you did when once would have done the job. you posted Scripture to rebuke what was being said. that should have been enough. scripture defends the Truth. what i am saying is i think you and others were wrong to beat the hell out of him with scripture and in doing so have run him off. that is wrong and shows no compassion nor kindness. yes we have to stand in Truth Gods Truth but we must be kind and compassionate as we do so Why ?? because that is one of the chacteristics of Love as defined in 1 Cor.13:4-7 We must stand in truth present the rebuke then back off and be deciples showing Love towards all.
Am i wrong !!

Romanseight2005 · #**144** 5th June 2007, 06:42 PM

Millerrod,
I understand where you are coming from, I really do. The problem is that first of all he is claiming to be a follower of Christ, and as such we do need to rebuke. Secondly, others are reading these posts. He was posting his antiscriptural beliefs over and over again. If we respond only once, and not to each of his points, then there is a good chance that someone reading will read untruth, and not get the real thing. People don't usually go back and read all of the pages. I am sorry if you feel that we have collectively beaten him to death, but I know that my motive was not to hurt or offend, but to defend the truth. Defending means you keep the waistbelt of truth on. You don't put it on for a minute, then take it off, while lies keep being tossed at you, and everyone else.

livingword26 · #**145** 5th June 2007, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by millerrod

Livingword i will not argue with you yes we must stand against false teaching and you did and you did and you did and you did when once would have done the job. you posted Scripture to rebuke what was being said. that should have been enough. scripture defends the Truth. what i am saying is i think you and others were wrong to beat the hell out of him with scripture and in doing so have run him off. that is wrong and shows no compassion nor kindness. yes we have to stand in Truth Gods Truth but we must be kind and compassionate as we do so Why ?? because that is one of the chacteristics of Love as defined in 1 Cor.13:4-7 We must stand in truth present the rebuke then back off and be deciples showing Love towards all.
Am i wrong !!

Every day we have a discussion. He presents his views, and I present the scripture. The next day he is back on with more of his and Bills views. Are you saying that we should just let him have the thread and continue to teach his heresies, with no further scriptural response? Who is that going to help? I have put a great deal of time into this thread, not because I get off on spending my evenings debating with a age philosophy, but because this man is on the edge, and I am afraid for his soul. You don't like the way I am handling it, then perhaps you should put some effort into it yourself instead of putting everyone else down who is trying to do the right thing.

millerrod · #**146** 5th June 2007, 07:05 PM

If he was around still he would tell you i was putting an effort out.
I have done to MANY people exactly what you are doing to him, to many times have i done exactly what you are doing and its wrong and i was wrong i have learned when someone reposts all you have to do is refer others to post # whatever and they can read the rebuke whithout you haveing to keep bashing him with it. if you remember i steped in right at the first because i could see what was going to happen and it did. there are good ways and bad ways to stand in Truth. Praise the Lord for you all standing in Truth now lets just learn to do it without losing the person thats all i am saying dont let it become a battle let scripture speak by posting the post # and leaving it alone. We are all here to grow are we not ?? I just hate to see you all making the same mistake i have made to many times myself.

oneofGod · #**147** 5th June 2007, 09:18 PM

OK, I lost it.
So did Jesus at the temple.
And we definitely don't want His Father mad at us.

I'm human. This was a very real experience, with very real lives deeply affected by it. It has changed my life completely.
I have a contracting business.
I was working for a christian church going man who kept making promises, like a work truck, and an extra weeks vacation that he never produced. So I quit after about a year of this.
I have my own contracting license, but after I left my girlfriend and moved back to Steamboat, from Grand Junction (where I met Bill). I hopped in that old motorhome that he stayed in.
We bought it for $1000 and lived in for a bit after my business went
belly up in Kremmling.
Anyways, we hadn't driven it more that 30 miles, and the tags were expired, but it ran like a top and I made it to Steamboat without getting stopped.
After I quit, my ex christian boss charged me $680 for things I had charged on the company credit card. I promise, I never bought anything that was not job related. He did a bunch of other stuff, that just baffled me.
So I put an ad in the paper,
2 months later, I have signed a contract for a 60 unit townhome project, and another contract for 3 single family homes. Now I work alone, so I took the ad out of the paper. So God is blessing me financially and keeping me busy.
My relationship is up and down, (my girlfriend came to Steamboat after a while), but who's isn't. I have a wonderful daughter, and and stepdaughter whom I love very much.

I have two kids in Spain that barely know me, and this bothers me very much. God has assured me that I will resolve this issue, which is a huge guilt on me, before His wrath. It is extremely important to me that I have all issues in my life in accordance with the word. I'm at about 80-85 %. I witness alot, but I like to go out and have a few drinks,
and this I will have to cut this out of my life soon.
PS I ride my bike when I go downtown! No drinking and driving.

So, I'm going to make a video and post it on youtube. I will post the link here when I do.
I have affected alot of people by telling this story personally.

Plus, I'm very busy, and I don't have as much time to write and argue whether this is right or wrong. I know my heart. It's right. I'm being guided by God for something scary, yet ultimitely wonderful.

By the way. Millerrod. Thanks.
What I told you in the first IM. I still believe that brother.

I enjoy a certain amount of debate. But your not going to change my beliefs. That's not why I'm here. I'm here to tell my story.
And it's not your average story.
Praise to Jesus for helping me with this post.
Praise to God for His Peace and Love.
May we please Him in all that we do.
Amen.

FenderElctrc · #**148** 5th June 2007, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by oneofGod

OK, I lost it.
So did Jesus at the temple.
And we definitely don't want His Father mad at us.

I'm human. This was a very real experience, with very real lives deeply affected by it. It has changed my life completely.
I have a contracting business.
I was working for a christian church going man who kept making promises, like a work truck, and an extra weeks vacation that he never produced. So I quit after about a year of this.
I have my own contracting license, but after I left my girlfriend and moved back to Steamboat, from Grand Junction (where I met Bill). I hopped in that old motorhome that he stayed in.
We bought it for $1000 and lived in for a bit after my business went
belly up in Kremmling.
Anyways, we hadn't driven it more that 30 miles, and the tags were expired, but it ran like a top and I made it to Steamboat without getting stopped.
After I quit, my ex christian boss charged me $680 for things I had charged on the company credit card. I promise, I never bought anything that was not job related. He did a bunch of other stuff, that just baffled me.
So I put an ad in the paper,
2 months later, I have signed a contract for a 60 unit townhome project, and another contract for 3 single family homes. Now I work alone, so I took the ad out of the paper. So God is blessing me financially and keeping me busy.
My relationship is up and down, (my girlfriend came to Steamboat after a while), but who's isn't. I have a wonderful daughter, and and stepdaughter whom I love very much.

I have two kids in Spain that barely know me, and this bothers me very much. God has assured me that I will resolve this issue, which is a huge guilt on me, before His wrath. It is extremely important to me that I have all issues in my life in accordance with the word. I'm at about 80-85 %. I witness alot, but I like to go out and have a few drinks,
and this I will have to cut this out of my life soon.
PS I ride my bike when I go downtown! No drinking and driving.

So, I'm going to make a video and post it on youtube. I will post the link here when I do.
I have affected alot of people by telling this story personally.

Plus, I'm very busy, and I don't have as much time to write and argue whether this is right or wrong. I know my heart. It's right. I'm being guided by God for something scary, yet ultimitely wonderful.

By the way. Millerrod. Thanks.
What I told you in the first IM. I still believe that brother.

I enjoy a certain amount of debate. But your not going to change my beliefs. That's not why I'm here. I'm here to tell my story.
And it's not your average story.
Praise to Jesus for helping me with this post.
Praise to God for His Peace and Love.
May we please Him in all that we do.
Amen.

Yes! You're back. I agree with Millerrod, we were wrong. We attacked you. Sorry. I was sad that you left.

millerrod · #**149** 5th June 2007, 09:53 PM

Brother i am glad you are back please understand that the others will not see what you have been shown till you can solidly back it with scripture. When God gave me the things of Rev. that he did it took me four years to search and find the scripture to back what God had shown me. i knew i had to be able to back the Truths God had shown me with rock solid scripture or my deliver of Gods Truth as shown to me would not be accepted. Can you for a moment think how people would have reacted had i came on here and said God has revealed Rev. to me and just left it at that they would have beat me to death and none not one would have believed. none and Gods message would have been lost. but over 10,000 people have read and understood because i lead by the Spirit found history and scripture to back what God gave me. God has taught us to decern all message to see if they are of God or if they are false and we have the tool to decern the message given and that tool is scripture Gods Word.
So brother if you have been given something to deliver research it with scripture line it up with scripture make it rock solid with scripture because as you have seen people are not and should not just take your or my or anyone elses word at face value it has to be decerned with scripture it is the tool God has given each of us to reconize Truth.
Dont give up or be discouraged i know you Love Christ !! Peace and Love !! Rod

millerrod · #**150** 5th June 2007, 10:00 PM

Fender what a wonderful day today is. i once watched you step forward and offer prayer for a young child and God rewarded you greatly for that and today i see the same young man step up and admitt to error and repent and even be humble enough to do it publicly. that defines what being a deciple is about. I will sleep well tonight fender thank you !! Pride and vanity are satans weapon of choice.
today you have defeated both. Praise the Lord !!