mitochondrial DNA, the Y Chromosome and Noah

all of Noah's sons would have shared the same Y chromosome, because they were his sons

assuming that the flood model is true, then why do we see so much variation in the Y chromosome?

similar argument goes for Mitochondrial DNA along the female line.

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Standard, standard. The UV light caused variation in the chromosome. Mutations that weren't lethal may have gone on to influence the gene pool.

The difference in your interpretation and mine of this issue, is that you believe the gene pool is improving--evolution. I, however, believe we were created perfect, and the UV light and it's mutations are removing us further and further from the perfect DNA that Adam had--creation.

I mean, just since noah... we should not have seen the amount of variation in the y chromosome as we have in ~4000 years.

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the mutation rate is only 2^10-8 per base per generation, and it is not like every man for the last 4000 years keeps the family jewels under a UV lamp.

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What data, specifically, are you saying can't be accounted for by creation?

here is an article dating the common ancestors of eight Y chromosome microsattelite loci to about 120,000 years:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract

(note when they say recent, 120,000 years is recent)

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not so much just creation, but the variation in the Y Chromosome cannot be accounted for, if one introduces a global flood 4000 years ago, with one surviving male line. one cannot account for it even if one stretches the time to a single male individual 6000 years ago. the earliest date I get for even a small group of y-chromosome microsatellite loci is 120,000 years ago.

Bear in mind this is just humans too, and humans are expected to have had a recent bottleneck. I would expect that animals show far more diversity.

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Jet where did you get all those blessings???

Do you still deny the power of God?

someone who had a few billion gave them to me

here, have a few yourself

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Night guys!