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So now you're telling God how he should have created. Well, the writer must know better than God then.
At least this view is consistent with the word, you by accepting evolution with nothing Holy to back it up is telling and teaching other Christians that YOU seem to know how God created, hell even the atheists agree creation cannot be falsified, man you need to take a step back and pray and make sure you're not teaching heresy, if God didn't tell you, then you have no reason to promote TE.
You roll your eyes at the bible, and again fail to show the fruit of the Spirit, why should anyone believe you?
God said it was so it must have been.
So here we have you contradicting yourself, by your logic here, if God said it was so it must have been, God said the bible was inspired, so it must be so right? God said that he created in 6 days, so it must be so right?
article from a scientist that believes the nephelim are the Neanderthals
Genesis Chapter 6:1
And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4 There were giants [nephilim] in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
The ancient manuscripts refer to a time 4,500 years ago, before the ancient Egyptian civilisation, when highly intelligent life forces from outside our universe were aware that the human race was beginning to multiply on this planet. They turned their attention to earth with the intention of controlling and colonising it. The human race at that time had a possible population of some 35 million * (see foot note 1) Click here to go to foot note 1. For certain calculated reasons they took this opportunity to move in on the Human estate with the objective of usurping it and bringing it under their control and domination.
Having an extremely high level of scientific knowledge, coming from a race millions of years older than the fairly new human race, they understood precisely how the human DNA functioned in the human make up. Engineering the transformation of their own makeup to assimilate the human form they took on physical bodies fashioned on their knowledge of the human DNA structure and cellular make up. Probably emphasising and enhancing in the process physical power and size, making themselves extremely impressive specimens * (see foot note 2 for manuscript referances). Click here to go to foot note 2.
There is no manuscript information as to how many went through this metamorphic change but possibly some thousands participated. They took pleasure in exercising control over the natural human population, cohabiting with the women, selecting the best for themselves without restriction. Probably meeting very little objection from husbands or other human males due to their impressive physical dominance.
Once these women had been impregnated and inseminated with their engineered semen they became pregnant giving birth to children who were a hybrid half-caste race known as Nephilim. It is very likely that these hybrid individuals were sterile and did not breed.
2. Hybrid Sterility:
* To illustrate the existing natural laws, a Hybrid, strictly defined, is an offspring that is a cross between different species usually producing sterile hybrids; the male mule is the sterile offspring of a female horse and a male donkey. It is used in many parts of the world as a beast of burden because of its much greater body strength than its parents. It seems to excel both its parents in muscular endurance, surefootedness, and length of life. The hinny is the sterile hybrid offspring of the female donkey and the male horse.
Hybrids often have what is called hybrid vigour; they tend to be larger, faster growing, and healthier than their parents. Thus, mules are bred for their strength, superior to that of either parent. Ornamental plants are bred for their larger flowers; nearly all corn and tomatoes grown today are hybrids that bear much larger fruit than their parental stock.
[quote=Badfish]At least this view is consistent with the word, you by accepting evolution with nothing Holy to back it up is telling and teaching other Christians that YOU seem to know how God created, hell even the atheists agree creation cannot be falsified, man you need to take a step back and pray and make sure you're not teaching heresy, if God didn't tell you, then you have no reason to promote TE.[/quopte]
We know part of how God created because we can see it in His creation.
Yes, creation cannot be falsified, but creationism can and has been.
You roll your eyes at the bible, and again fail to show the fruit of the Spirit, why should anyone believe you?
The rolling the eyes was for the irony in the statement, the article was saying God made missteps if He used evolutionl and I pointed out God made missteps in creationism by creating animals to help Adam but they were unsuitable.
So here we have you contradicting yourself, by your logic here, if God said it was so it must have been, God said the bible was inspired, so it must be so right? God said that he created in 6 days, so it must be so right?
God's Word is not always literal, He uses metaphors to describe Himself even, He says he is fire, a storm, etc. You don't literally believe God is fire or a storm now do you?
Why are you incapable of knowing the difference between non-literal and untrue?
Creationism doesn't make sense at all, why would a all-powerful God need to rest, why did he create man, then animals as his helper, but because they were unsuitable he created woman (oh but wait, Genesis 1 says God created animals first then man and woman at the same time, hmm ).
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Last I saw 57% of Catholics believed in evolution, and Catholicism is the major representative of Christians, followed closely by protestants whos evolution believing percentage would probably be pretty low.
It's only in America and "Americanized" countries such as the UK that there are a lot of creationists, but anywhere else they are a minority, in countries such as Sweden you'd be laughed at even by Christians if you said you were a creationist.
It's not really surprising considering the things Americans do, like suing McDonalds because they are fat ("Only in America!").
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Last edited by wblastyn; 24th August 2003 at 06:02 AM.
I have to say, this is an interesting thread.
I agree with badfish, that we cant know 100%.
If we could be 100% sure on either spontaneous or evolution, then there would be no need to debate
We would all know what it would be then.
Right kiwi, it is interesting to note that Gen 1 and 2 are compatible, it was explained elsewhere, preserving the possibility that the bible is inspired and spontaneous creation was Gods method.
Right kiwi, it is interesting to note that Gen 1 and 2 are compatible, it was explained elsewhere, preserving the possibility that the bible is inspired and spontaneous creation was Gods method.
Right kiwi, it is interesting to note that Gen 1 and 2 are compatible, it was explained elsewhere, preserving the possibility that the bible is inspired and spontaneous creation was Gods method.
Genesis 1 and 2 contradict each other if taken literally.
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