God separating the Jewish people is simply the shadow of what was to come. What was done according to the flesh was merely another form of prophecy of what would be done in the Spirit.
We no longer need to have such irrelevant debates about whether or not something is Jewish or Gentile. It's all about the Spirit and Truth. What is on the inside, not what is on the outside. That is one of the fundamental truths of scripture. To say this is a "Jewish" or "Gentile" religion is simply a waste of time and offensive.
Well if we're all going to have to observe these feasts, I'll wait until Jesus teaches us. Ask any Jew, they even dispute among themselves which ones we should observe, and which ones we don't need to. If I remember correctly, Abraham was called the Father of MANY nations. And some say he was the first Jew. Interesting...since Abraham didn't have any feasts to follow, or even the laws. Those didn't happen until 500 years after his existance. They practiced circumcision as a sign they belonged to God. But Abraham was not a Jew as in blood since, he was born in Ur. The land of the Caldease. A Syrian. So what happened that suddenly made him to be called the first Jew? He believed God, and it was counted to him as rightousness. That goes for both Gentiles and Jews, and in Jesus there is no difference. God is not interested in racial profiling. You are a new creation in Christ wheather Jew or Gentile, that has never existed before. One that has been circumcised in the heart.
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Well if we're all going to have to observe these feasts, I'll wait until Jesus teaches us. Ask any Jew, they even dispute among themselves which ones we should observe, and which ones we don't need to. If I remember correctly, Abraham was called the Father of MANY nations. And some say he was the first Jew. Interesting...since Abraham didn't have any feasts to follow, or even the laws. Those didn't happen until 500 years after his existance. They practiced circumcision as a sign they belonged to God. But Abraham was not a Jew as in blood since, he was born in Ur. The land of the Caldeese. A Syrian. So what happened that suddenly made him to be called the first Jew? He believed God, and it was counted to him as rightousness. That goes for both Gentiles and Jews, and in Jesus there is neither one. God is not interested in racial profiling. You are a new creation in Christ wheather Jew or Gentile, that has never existed before. One that has been circumcised in the heart.
Do you believe God? That is why I said look it up it is in Leviticus and states very palinly that some of these feasts will be forever and in Revelation it says that during the millenial all nations and peoples shall come to Jerusalem once a year and talks of booths which is feast of tabrinacles. It is not me saying it, it is God you will have to take it up with Him
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Do you believe God? That is why I said look it up it is in Leviticus and states very palinly that some of these feasts will be forever and in Revelation it says that during the millenial all nations and peoples shall come to Jerusalem once a year and talks of booths which is feast of tabrinacles. It is not me saying it, it is God you will have to take it up with Him
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Do you believe God? That is why I said look it up it is in Leviticus and states very palinly that some of these feasts will be forever and in Revelation it says that during the millenial all nations and peoples shall come to Jerusalem once a year and talks of booths which is feast of tabrinacles. It is not me saying it, it is God you will have to take it up with Him
These sort of discussions always get alittle heated. But I get to discuss this a whole lot. With my Jewish Rabbi Uncles. I have two. Age 87 the other 90. LOL. We get going pretty good sometimes. But I will answer you this way. God tabernacles with us all the time. It is a celebration that Spirit filled believers have the advantage of everyday. It is now a reality. No longer a type or shadow.
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God separating the Jewish people is simply the shadow of what was to come. What was done according to the flesh was merely another form of prophecy of what would be done in the Spirit.
We no longer need to have such irrelevant debates about whether or not something is Jewish or Gentile. It's all about the Spirit and Truth. What is on the inside, not what is on the outside. That is one of the fundamental truths of scripture. To say this is a "Jewish" or "Gentile" religion is simply a waste of time and offensive.
We are not talking about Jewish or Gentile Religions. We are talking about truth taught by Jesus that if followed produces followers with great spiritual power.... that is not happening in what is called Christianity, lets be honest, this is not working...and until we go back to God's movement of power we will remain in this stagnant state....Greg Kerr
We are not talking about Jewish or Gentile Religions. We are talking about truth taught by Jesus that if followed produces followers with great spiritual power.... that is not happening in what is called Christianity, lets be honest, this is not working...and until we go back to God's movement of power we will remain in this stagnant state....Greg Kerr
Who are you to hurl stones at the beloved Bride of Christ?
The real Church, His body, is made up of people with His love and power working all through them day by day, and they are here among us.
If you could discuss the issues that concern you without resorting to accusing the brethren we might be able to talk.
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God is God of all races... The Jewish people were chosen to be the lineage line of the Messiah, were chosen to take that message to the world...
They failed in delivering the message that God is 'Lord of all'... though the prophets oft tried to tell them their mission ...
The church is now 'grafted into the vine' from which many were 'cut off'...
We now have that mission of telling all races, all the world about Jesus...
Jesus came to 'fulfill' the prophecies of what some now call 'Judaism'... and many of them failed to recognize the Messiah they were to proclaim...
So, many are in a religion that has failed to recognize the One they were to announce...
Christianity is the branch of that original teachings of God, that has recognized the true Messiah is Jesus...
I am therefore a 'New Jerusalem Jew' (by faith, not by race) I am grafted into the O.T. faith, with the fulfillment of that Faith...
Jesus did not start a new faith, He fulfilled the O.T. revelations from God..
Those who rejected Him have continued in many customs and teachings of the past, looking for a fulfillment that has already come...
God has set aside 7 more years to deal with that people who rejected Him, and many of them will realize that Jesus is the Messiah...
God has sought to make all, Jew and Gentile into one faith... God does not see us as Gentile, nor as Jew.... when we come into the faith of Jesus... We are not bond nor free, not male nor female, and we are to all, even Jew and Gentile to be ONE in Christ...
It will be that way in eternity... get used to it....
Could I clarify one thing for everyone writing in this post. I am not speaking of Jew or Gentile going to heaven, I am speaking of the teachings that are necessary to be followed to get anyone into heaven. Lets face it for centuries after Jesus left earth his followers kept His basic foundational truths and continued His movement of power, then Rome came in with religious teachings that began destroying the teachings of Christ and the movement of power turned into christianity today which for the most part has no spiritual power nor does it resemble Christs movement in any way...
We are in a gentile religion ? No way. Book Of Revelation from Jesus Himself....Heaven is called The New Jerusalem, Not New York or New Jersey...Heaven has a wall around it with twelve layers of precious stones and on each one of these layers is the name of one of the twelve apostles of Jesus, the last being Mathias not Paul....Heaven has twelve gates to go through and on each of these gates is written one of the names of the twelve tribes of Israel....looks kinda Jewish to me and guess what, it is going to be filled with all the Jews in the Bible, Jesus included.....now keep on believing that we are in a gentile movement not Jewish....you might say that if we are not a Jew in the realm of the spirit we are not even part of this movement---
I don't think we are too far missing the mark as far as being off topic to your subject. I don't think you find too many people on here that are saying that we practice a Gentile religion. But yet, aren't you saying that it's a Jewish religion? I see nothing wrong with studying the Bible to see what all the types and shadows represnted as far as they pertain to Christ, which they all point to Christ. Thats the whole thing, but when that which is perfect is come, why do you think we as the Body of Christ are lacking anything? What is the church not effective in? I would like to hear what is it that the church lacks? Surely it's not because of lack of traditions or types and shadows practiced, we are missing anything. Salvation is of the Jews, absolutley, God intrusted them with His words and promises and practices that was meant to point to the coming Messiah out of them.
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