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Originally Posted by Grizzly
Why aren't demons mating with humans today? There are large pockets of ungodly people running around. I'm sure demons could repopulate the earth with giants. Why have they stopped?
i already posted this link many times (good introductory article to the stories of giants/fallen angels)

http://www.stargods.org/GW_Michael_Mott.htm

"4 There were giants [nephilim] in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. 5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. "

The passage "and also after that" refers to a time after the flood, when an unspecified form of Nephilim or fallen angels once again took an interest in human women. These are not the same as those nephilim who did this before the flood however, as they are imprisoned. The result of these later unions were the Canaanite and other "giants" of the Old Testament, such as those mentioned in the Book of Numbers and elsewhere: "`And there we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak, who come from the Nephilim); and we seemed to ourselves like grasshoppers, and so we seemed to them.' Then all the congregation raised a loud cry; and the people wept that night." (Numbers Chapter 13 verse 33)

The Anakim or Children of Anak are synonymous with Zechariah Sitchin's Anunnaki, or Anunna. There was a specific reason that the Israelites were commanded to utterly wipe out these peoples, as this represented a new effort to undermine the planned destiny of humanity.
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: Crowds are flocking to Indian temples to see a Muslim baby with a 'tail' who is believed to be the reincarnation of a Hindu god. The 11-month-old boy has been named Balaji or Bajrangbali, another name for monkey-faced Lord Hanuman. He is reported to have a 4in 'tail' caused by genetic mutations during the development of the foetus.

Iqbal Qureshi, the child's maternal grandfather, is taking Balaji from temple to temple where people offer money to see the boy. Mr Qureshi says the baby has nine spots on his body like Lord Hanuman and showed them to journalists, reports Indian newspaper The Tribune.

for more info on the corruption of the human gene pool by the fallen angels go here (bible and book of enoch)



--- Yep. A full grown tail without fur. Now I have to wonder how these genes got into the human gene pool since we know that we did not evolve from the animals. I think that Gen. 6. and the Book of Enoch explain in detail what happened. No oneone earth can say that this baby is fully human. As Christians we should not listen to the evolutionists explination that this gene is a result of evolving from animals. God did not create man from the animals. Only evolution promotes this myth.

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lol. and geology, and biology, (all types, micro to environmental) and anthropology and archiology. heck, chemistry can contribute as well. shall we keep going? zoology, botany, the list goes on. every relevant field supports evolution. with mountains of evidence. you dont even need a phd. any good dog or horse breeder should be able to explain what happens.
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"And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. " Gen 6:1-4

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clearly we have 3 groups. the sons of god, the daughters of men, and the giants. heck, the sons of god dont seem very holy to me, they forcefully took the daughters of men to wife.
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"And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and 6 fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones." Enoch 7:4,5,6[/quote]

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your suggesting that the giants spoken of earlier were fallen angels? and that they have tainted the human bloodline? resulting in a mutated baby in india, among other things. I think i understand you.

let me popose a different scenario. its not so apparent in america, with our mixing of ethnic groups, but, in the middle ages for example, the average hight of a person was just under 5'. now, there are obviously places in the world where the average hight is much higher, (I believe southern sudan is one, around 7')

now, if you had grown up in a place where 5'6" is really tall, and you suddenly found a group of poeple that were 7' even 7 1/2' high, you would call them giants.

wich do you think is more likely? fallen angels? or different ethinic groups?
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http://www.stevequayle.com/index1.html (click on books)
here is the introduction of steve quayles book "Genetic Armageddon." The introduction gets straight to the point that i have tried to convey to you people (mixing genes of animals and humans)

Transhumanism is a loosely defined movement that has developed gradually over the past two decades …. Attention is given to both present technologies, like genetic engineering and information technology, and anticipated future ones, such as molecular nanotechnology and artificial intelligence. The enhancement-options that are being discussed include radical extension of human health-span, eradication of disease, elimination of unnecessary suffering, and augmentation of human intellectual, physical and emotional capacities… Transhumanists hope… we shall eventually manage to become posthumans, beings with vastly greater capacities than present humans. - Nick Bostrom

Although most of the planet is blissfully unaware of what is approaching, lulled by promises of a “great big beautiful tomorrow,” the near future will be anything but beautiful. A terrifying future thunders toward mankind, an impending fate embodied by monstrous, blasphemous combinations of human and animal genetic materials, of man/machine cyborgs, and of beings not only with increased capacities and extended life-spans, but also with re-engineered morality void of compassion.

This future is so abhorrent as to almost defy the imagination.

These new beings, and the transhumanists looking forward to their arrival, will not be benevolent.

Just the opposite.

Because the goal of those creating these beings will that they will replace human beings, that the new race will be posthumans. The word “posthuman” sounds innocuous enough. Until one realizes that “post” means “after.” As in “the human race is gone.”

Of course one might argue that this could be a gradual process. This is a tragic assumption, however, as will be documented in this book. In fact, the process will be rapid, undertaken with surprise attacks employing plagues and hi-tech, microscopic nanomachines designed to enter a victim’s body to rapidly kill cells and bring about the demise of its host. This won’t be a process in which one race replaces another, slowly and peacefully, even if that’s the misrepresentation that most people receive. It will be violent, bloody conflict.

What is planned is a quick change, a coup de tate, where mankind is there one day, and in mass graves the next. The goal is to replace mankind.

There will be no time for benignly permitting the “inferior race” to die quietly. That would take too long. The goal is the “final solution.” A quick death for those who are in the way of the new superior race. The goal is the extinction of the human race.

The new inheritors who lead this purge will be the stuff of science fiction. Creatures not unlike the cyborg of the Terminator or the deadly transhuman creature in Species will soon emerge to first enslave what remains of mankind and then rule more ruthlessly than Stalin or Hitler. These dictators will with one goal: To kill as many human beings as quickly as possible.

What was once the realm of madmen’s imaginations and the stuff of nightmares has now become the unholy grail that factions of the scientific community are striving for. Mankind was kicked out of the Garden of Eden lest “in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.” Today there are those reaching for that fruit, working diligently to rebuild mankind into a new image, changing things at the genetic level, and rearranging the basic makeup into super-beings that will be very much like gods when compared to normal individuals.

These geneticists and nano-technologists believe they can out-do God, and see mankind as a “flawed design” that can be reformed into a new, terrifying image. They have no qualms about doing this. Indeed, they are convinced this is the “next step in evolution” that must be taken.

There transformed creations will become a new ruling elite that is superior physically and mentally to normal individuals. Those forming these transhumans hope to transform themselves as well, and plan to rule alongside these new gods. (What these misguided scientists don’t realize is that they’ll undoubtedly be viewed as expendable and ultimately will become part of the billions of “normals” who will be slaughtered as the world is transformed into a nightmare ruled by the neo-gods they created.) Like Pandora who released the scourges and plagues upon mankind, these researchers intent on improving the human genetic line will soon release death, sickness, and war upon mankind on a scale that has never before been seen.

This future is not something a century away. This Pandora’s box is already cracked open; some of the demon technology has already escaped - indeed much of it is already being put to use. The lid to this box is opening ever wider, unleashing more terrors on the unsuspecting. The complete transformation is only a matter of a decade away if not much sooner.

It is safe to say that most those reading this book will live to see this terrifying future, and may know the sorrow of seeing loved ones herded into death camps, and of seeing mankind ground into powder under the metal and clawed feet of amoral supermen. This future will make the mass genocide’s of the 20th Century pale by comparison.

The foundation for fulfilling this nightmare are already in place, and as will be detailed in this book, fully entrenched in government and business. There is no “if” to whether or not these things will be put into motion. They are already unfolding and will continue to fruition if not stopped immediately.

The new race is on its way. Its goal is to ruthlessly destroy the men, women, and children who will be seen as outdated and useless, chaff to be cast to the wind by the new, rightful owners of the Earth, the next step in “human evolution.”

Perhaps even most terrifying is the thought that these monsters will carry out their slaughter with a “new morality.” This mindset will be adopted to transform (in their minds) their actions. They will believe that in through their murders they are doing a good thing, something that is not only proper but wholesome and necessary. The slaughter will be undertaken with the lie that it will transform the Earth into a much better place, and that those who take the place of homo sapiens are doing a needful, moral thing, much as a man might feel after ripping a weed from his lawn or squashing a cockroach under heel.

Mankind’s worst nightmare, the sum of all terrors, is becoming reality.
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Originally Posted by jhessel
...embodied by monstrous, blasphemous combinations...of man/machine cyborgs, and of beings not only with increased capacities and extended life-spans, but also with re-engineered morality void of compassion.

These new beings, and the transhumanists looking forward to their arrival, will not be benevolent.

Just the opposite.

Creatures not unlike the cyborg of the Terminator or the deadly transhuman creature in Species will soon emerge to first enslave what remains of mankind...



Present company excluded, I trust, jhessel?
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the time is approaching.

"What people are going to see is going to make their hair curl," David Icke promised the History Channel. "What's been going on, in front of their face and behind their back, all their lives, while they thought a completely different story was unfolding." -david icke
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Originally Posted by jhessel
it is only ridiculous to those ignorant on scripture. They could be atheists, or christians that go to church (church wont teach you any of this). People are kept ignorant.

"As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the days of the Son of man, They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all (Luke 17:26-27)."

According to the Bible there is nothing wrong with eating and drinking, marrying etc., etc., but these people who lived before the Great Flood were doing something which caused the Lord to drown them all. They were creating genetic monstrosities and polluting the human race with Satanic bloodlines in order to prevent the Messiah from having pure human blood.

"And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. There were giants [NEPHILIM] in the earth in those days; and also after that (at the time of Moses), when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them. (Genesis chapter 6)."

Satanic bloodlines

The Bible says that before the Great Flood, human women married the "sons of God" and they produced GIANTS in size and in iniquity. All nations have legends about giants. That is where the Greek demigods like Prometheus, Atlas and Titan came from. The only true account of that tragedy is found in the Book of Genesis which was written by Moses. We can get an idea of what Satan did back then by studying his methods in subsequent history. All the universe and history is circular in aspect. God declares the end right at the beginning.

What happened before the Great Flood?

When Adam and Eve died, Satan introduced the theory of evilution into the world that teaches that man and animals are genetically related. He downplayed the story of the creation and fall of man by the sin of Adam and Eve. Then women began to assume a dominant role in human affairs. Satan downplayed the command of God that women were to be in subjection to their husbands.

These fallen angels must have introduced their scheme as an evolutionary advance for mankind. They promised the women that if they married and bore their offspring they would not have to be in subjection to their husbands. As a result, the world was overrun by half human half animal genetic monstrosities and God decided to destroy the entire world except for Noah and his family.

The pre-Flood world was a zoological nightmare. From left to right, a grypon, a manticore, a ferocious human-headed carnivore with 3 interlocking rows of teeth, a basilick, a unicorn, an Assyrian human headed winged bull.

God got rid of these half human half animal monstrosities by drowning them all. All the billions of humans and animals were turned into fossil fuel —coal and petroleum . The only survivors were Noah and his family who were not contaminated by these Satanic bloodlines.

Memories of these monsters were preserved in Egyptian and Greek mythology. The Bible gives the true account of what really happened while corrupted versions were handed down in myths and folklore:
Uhmmmm...well I realize I am new on here and I can't say I read through all these posts but I am REALLY hoping someone on here corrected...or rather maybe tried to correct the poster on this...

I think you need to listen to the BibleAnswerMan...or better yet call him on the Christian radio station...

There is NO proof that the Sons of God meant fallen angels...or demons or satan, ect....

Demons...same thing as fallen angels...cannot have sex with human women...they have no soild bodies for one thing....nope never happened..why esle do you think they are wanting to possess people or oppeses them? Also IF there were a hybred human being...then where in there attonment on the cross? Jesus came to bear the sins of ALL of us...those that lived in the past, present and future....what about those poor souls? You would have to rewrite the whole entire bible to include something like this....

The 'tail' on a fetus is nothing more then part of the spine...nervous system which develops first along with the head and heart...

You know back in the dark ages when a person was born deformed, they were killed...or woshiped...I thought this was the year 2003?? Do you really think satan is going to present a baby that stands out like this in the first place...which he can't do anyway....

People living in third world countries...well I feel sorry for them as they really are still in the dark ages.

Anyone ever watch the Elephant Man? If the movie about him was true in how they showed his personality after being treated so terribly, then I think he was an angel in disguides...

Remember the scriptures...the Lord does not chose a king by appeances...He looks inside at the heart..

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Originally Posted by jhessel
the time is approaching.

"What people are going to see is going to make their hair curl," David Icke promised the History Channel. "What's been going on, in front of their face and behind their back, all their lives, while they thought a completely different story was unfolding." -david icke
I'm picturing a crazy guy on the side of the street, with a big sign saying "The End Is Near"

ps: not that it isn't, but come on, there's more reasonable evidence than this.
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Originally Posted by Yitzchak
Thanks for the link. Those are some tall persons there.

There are some outlandish things written about in jewish extra-biblical writings. Giants much much taller than 8 feet for example. I am not familiar with any about lizards. Perhaps start a thread in the messianic jewish forum and ask about jewish extra biblical sources for giants and other jewish legends. There are some stories in jewish extra biblical sources which I have read which are very hard to believe. You may find it interesting to add it to your collection of legends from other cultures.
Whitestar, I have taken the liberty of bumping this post for you to read because I believe that Jewish legend is the source from which this belief originated...although the transhuman and cyborg aspects are derived from science fiction.
Nonetheless, Mr. Quayle's beliefs are seriously held by others, despite the efforts of the Bible Answer Man.

Yitzchak, would you mind relating the legend of the Golem for us? Please?
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Whitestar, I have taken the liberty of bumping this post for you to read because I believe that Jewish legend is the source from which this belief originated...although the transhuman and cyborg aspects are derived from science fiction.
Nonetheless, Mr. Quayle's beliefs are seriously held by others, despite the efforts of the Bible Answer Man.

Yitzchak, would you mind relating the legend of the Golem for us? Please?

uh ok...I just thought maybe if this fellow had some basis bible knowlege rather then folklore, he wouldn't see demon's in babies.. People used also used to lock up there deformed and/or retarded kids in the attic or basement, believing they somehow sinned and God was punishing them for it...how very very sad that people think like this when in reality, these people are blessings from God!

To actually think a baby born with a tail is from a demon!!! My first response is to suggest they quit watching RoseMary's baby and the X-files... :rolleyes:

I used to read all kinds of werid stuff about people born differently but I sure never thought they came from satan. In Mexico there is a family of werewolves! Well not real werewolves like in the horror movies, but they look just like the old black and white movies about them. When they hit their teen years they grow hair all over their bodies...literally! Their faces are totally covered with hair...everywhere and very heavily...

These poor folks can't get regular jobs because of how they look...shaving is a nightmare and it just grows back...no one knows why this happens to them and there is no 'cure' as its passed through the genes. One fellow, the only job he could get was with a circus freak show...now isn't that sad?

Of course they don't go around attacking people or animals or anything like that...

If people get concerned over a little tail on a baby...how do they feel about conjoined twins? or other deformities? It was like these babies decided they wanted to be like this and satan really has limited powers too...the bible shows us that. Oh and I have seen the skulls with horns too..in fact HW made a gargole pictures based on that...they have such a good imagation don't they? I have worked with handicapped adults that had terrible deformities...much much worse then any little tail and these people suffer because of the deformaties... They sure don't need people saying this awful stuff to them...

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Most of my posts in this thread were removed for "ridiculing" and "trolling". Since specific posts weren't quoted and many of my posts in various threads tend to be a bit on the light-hearted side, this will be my last post at CF.

jhessel, it was not my intent to ridicule you or to spam your thread. My apologies if I offended you in any way. Carry on; you have a right to your beliefs, as do we all.

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