Maybe we should start another thread and discuss Palatka's depression over losing reputation points. :rolleyes:
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There is something about birth defects being related to Satan's gene pool that I find highly offensive. Perhaps you aren't related to anyone who has a birth defect, so you wouldn't understand.
At any rate, as others have pointed out, embryos have a tail. You had one when you were an embryo. Actually you still do, you just can't see it. There really isn't anything unusual about it at all.
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First, I am wondering if the term "birth defect" is politically correct? I don't know of a more polite alternative though.
Exodus 4:11 clearly teaches that the Lord makes the dumb, the deaf, the seeing and the blind. I would infer from this that this also implies that the Lord makes people with other conditions as well.
I didn't understand the position of the thread to neccesarially be that birth defects are from satan's gene pool. I understood it to mean that angels and animals being mated with humans causes offspring which are the source of many legends. Coming to mind is the greek minataur which was half bull/half human. This seems to me to be a completely different catagory than birth defects.
Did I miss something in the discussion?
1. Ancient manuscript information on the Nephilim race: (a scientist article)
The ancient manuscripts refer to a time 4,500 years ago, before the ancient Egyptian civilisation, when highly intelligent life forces from outside our universe were aware that the human race was beginning to multiply on this planet. They turned their attention to earth with the intention of controlling and colonising it. The human race at that time had a possible population of some 35 million * (see foot note 1) Click here to go to foot note 1. For certain calculated reasons they took this opportunity to move in on the Human estate with the objective of usurping it and bringing it under their control and domination.
Having an extremely high level of scientific knowledge, coming from a race millions of years older than the fairly new human race, they understood precisely how the human DNA functioned in the human make up. Engineering the transformation of their own makeup to assimilate the human form they took on physical bodies fashioned on their knowledge of the human DNA structure and cellular make up. Probably emphasising and enhancing in the process physical power and size, making themselves extremely impressive specimens * (see foot note 2 for manuscript referances). Click here to go to foot note 2.
There is no manuscript information as to how many went through this metamorphic change but possibly some thousands participated. They took pleasure in exercising control over the natural human population, cohabiting with the women, selecting the best for themselves without restriction. Probably meeting very little objection from husbands or other human males due to their impressive physical dominance.
Once these women had been impregnated and inseminated with their engineered semen they became pregnant giving birth to children who were a hybrid half-caste race known as Nephilim. It is very likely that these hybrid individuals were sterile and did not breed.
2. Hybrid Sterility:
* To illustrate the existing natural laws, a Hybrid, strictly defined, is an offspring that is a cross between different species usually producing sterile hybrids; the male mule is the sterile offspring of a female horse and a male donkey. It is used in many parts of the world as a beast of burden because of its much greater body strength than its parents. It seems to excel both its parents in muscular endurance, surefootedness, and length of life. The hinny is the sterile hybrid offspring of the female donkey and the male horse.
Hybrids often have what is called hybrid vigour; they tend to be larger, faster growing, and healthier than their parents. Thus, mules are bred for their strength, superior to that of either parent. Ornamental plants are bred for their larger flowers; nearly all corn and tomatoes grown today are hybrids that bear much larger fruit than their parental stock.
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Well I think you might have missed the part where Jhessel accused a baby born with a tail of being the spawn of satan :rolleyes:
And as far as I know the term birth defect isn't offensive or anything. I hardly think a person born without legs would consider it a great blessing
My thinking about the term is consider if humans had wings and could fly. Would I then be considered to be defective? Since I can't fly? I would agree many "birth defects" are disadvantages but are they not just limitations of a sort that is more noticable then say for example, ADHD or bi-polar? I am not personally offended by the term but it seems to me that the term does place a value judgement on those with such conditions.
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My thinking about the term is consider if humans had wings and could fly. Would I then be considered to be defective? Since I can't fly? I would agree many "birth defects" are disadvantages but are they not just limitations of a sort that is more noticable then say for example, ADHD or bi-polar? I am not personally offended by the term but it seems to me that the term does place a value judgement on those with such conditions.
Of course you would be considered defective!
We don't even know that this child's condition was caused by a birth defect, but I don't think that the politically correct euphemisms are any improvement over the term. If anything, I like them less.
Everytime I use my "handicapped" placard, I'm reminded of golf or horseracing. :rolleyes:
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Maybe we should start another thread and discuss Palatka's depression over losing reputation points. :rolleyes:
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Just a mid-life crisis moment. However I do think that this subject is somewhat off the wall, religiously speaking of course. To say that an innocent child is the spawn of Satan? I feel that we've regressed to the darkages.
Id agree that Satan's power is strengthening if that would be where this thread is taking us. But it is ludircous to think that an angel or demon could inpregnate a woman. With as many demons around (1/3 of the heavenly host?) and their lust for sin, if they could physicaly propagate, the human race would be genetically undefined.
At best they can only cause one to engage in extramarrital affairs. Which is what occured at the time of the flood when the line of the sons of Seth (Sons of God) began to have affairs with the daughters of Cain (daughters of men).
This I'd also agree with is that we are in the last days and it is as it was in the days of Noah. The Christian male is being led away by the unbelieving female as is the Christian female being led away by the unbelieving male.
To equate birth defects to Satan's progeny boarders on a deep misunderstanding of human genetic disorders.
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My thinking about the term is consider if humans had wings and could fly. Would I then be considered to be defective? Since I can't fly? I would agree many "birth defects" are disadvantages but are they not just limitations of a sort that is more noticable then say for example, ADHD or bi-polar? I am not personally offended by the term but it seems to me that the term does place a value judgement on those with such conditions.
I assume beneficial mutations (like incredibly high IQ, if that's genetic) wouldn't be classed there. I'd actually place a kid with wings in a "Genetic engineering" category, but that's probably beside the point, since the kid couldn't fly (humans are too big to fly).
I'm not sure where mental disabilities fall in. I know I've been diagnosed ADD, but I don't feel that that has signifigantly hampered me mentally. I feel that ADD is just another name for "It's more convienent for us if you medicate this child" from the schools. But that's another thread. For disabilities like Bipolarity and retardation: I doubt many people with the condition would consider it a blessing. I remember chatting with a guy who's knuckles would turn purple in the cold because he broke them open slamming his fist into a wall on a manic high. He was preaching the benefits of seeking help before it was too late.
My thinking about the term is consider if humans had wings and could fly. Would I then be considered to be defective?
in one of my previous posts I posted an article about the dangers of transgenics. Scientists are mixing rabbit dna with human dna. This in the eyes of God is totally unacceptable. This is so bad that he brought down the flood upon the world just to cleanse the planet from this genetic monstrosities. Then God warns us that the days of the sons of man would be like the days of noah. That is a direct warning to the present day. We are now doing the forbidden when mixing animal dna with human dna. People need to see the big picture and think of where this is going to lead us (and how it relates to the past of noah's day and how it will affect the future)
some of you are probably wondering why Satan wanted to corrupt the gene pool of mankind. The reason is because if he did then the savior would not be able to be born. Noah and Jesus are of the same seedline.
http://www.stargods.org/GW_Michael_Mott.htm
"The book of Enoch says that the Nephilim and their children "sinned against all flesh," creating HYBRID creatures which were part human, part beast, part fowl (or bird). Sound familiar? The 300 fallen "watchers," whose original job had been to PROTECT humanity and the Earth, were utterly depraved. They taught mankind the arts of witchcraft, sorcery, drug abuse, and war. The gene-pool of the human race was tainted as well, almost beyond recovery. When you read the story of Noah and his family, it should be understood that he was not only selected to survive because of the quality of his character; Genesis states that, unlike the majority of the rest of humanity, Noah was "found perfect in all his generations." In other words, he and his family were UNTAINTED by the fallen angelic bloodline, which God had cursed to eternal damnation (in the Hebrew Old Testament, the word "rapha" means "the dam ned," the "eternally dead," "demon," "ghost," and GIANT, i.e., the spirit of one of the offspring of the Nephilim. "
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Why aren't demons mating with humans today? There are large pockets of ungodly people running around. I'm sure demons could repopulate the earth with giants. Why have they stopped?
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as is the Christian female being led away by the unbelieving male. 
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