[quote=Mark2010;34470570]Well, the reason I am a Liberal is because Liberals tend to think much more like I do than any other party. Now, it does NOT mean that I agree with every single thing that the party or its leadership says or does!!
I took objection to your statement because it is highly offensive and inflamatory. In fact, I've gotten targeted by moderators for FAR less.
IMO, you and everyone else are free to speak your opinions, but you've offered little to support your assertion. I am not Muslim and am no one's expert on the history of Islam, but I have yet to read anything that would support your claim.
Given what you said, what is your take on Mohammed and the Quran? Is Mohammed a false prophet who intentionally tried to deceive people? If so, why? Or was he just misled? Did he get his teachings from Allah or make it all up himself?[/
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Inflammatory has two m's not one.
My statement would only be offensive to Muslims or Muslim sympathizers, wheather they know they are sympathizers or not.
What I said is the truth which is something Liberals have the hardest time accepting.
Liberals set themselves up as social judges of society. They think they were put here to decide what people should or shouldn't say.
I did not invite, nor do I accept your ridiculous Liberal judgments or your typical Liberal fear mongering statements about starting WW III.
Wake up! WW III has already begun and I would rather see that than ever be under Muslim rule.
I'm so glad you have given me permission to think and speak freely.
The actions of Muslims make my statements self-evident to all but the blindest of people.
I think you need to move to Iran. They can always use another PR guy.
The terrorists said they prefer that Liberals be in power in industrialized Western countries. Why you ask? Because terrorists have a far greater chance of operating freely when naive Liberals are in seats of authority.
Then you need to read a lot more. I guess that you missed the fact that Muslim murder each other by the millions?
Did you also miss what Jihad is all about? Jihad would be where they exterminate you and me and everyone who is not Muslim.
Do you think the cutting people's heads off in the Spirit of God's love?
Where have you been for the last twenty years?
Mohamed is a dead false profit who wrote the Quran which has been responsible for deceiving most of the Arab world as well as great numbers of non-Arabs.
I am certain he got his teaching from the devil who he mistook for the God of Abraham.
We are sticking to the subject, but thank your for thinking about us.
Interesting how you waited for me to reply to the other two people's personal post before you thought to offer your unsolicited referee services.
You're welcome. I DO think of the people on here
Nope I wasn't waiting for anything I just didn't get to this thread yet. I 'm not on all the time now and when I did come on I had other things to do first and then got side tracked.
Nope, not a referee either , but you should know by now I try to be a peacemaker
Hi J4J, I tried to PM you but opening your profile shuts down my IE. LOL Some error about the the realplayer or something.
ANyways, I was just gonna thank you for the "welcome".
I apologize for the hijacking and return you to your regularly scheduled thread.
I beleive that all leaders of religions are tools of the devil and some may have been directly possesed by demons.
BTW, can anyone tell me how many founders/leaders of those other religions have actual miracles attributed to them by multiple sources outside the religions themselves?
Thank God we have a relationship and not just another religion.
Hi J4J, I tried to PM you but opening your profile shuts down my IE. LOL Some error about the the realplayer or something.
ANyways, I was just gonna thank you for the "welcome".
I apologize for the hijacking and return you to your regularly scheduled thread.
I beleive that all leaders of religions are tools of the devil and some may have been directly possesed by demons.
BTW, can anyone tell me how many founders/leaders of those other religions have actual miracles attributed to them by multiple sources outside the religions themselves?
Thank God we have a relationship and not just another religion.
There is a difference in religious people and born again Christians but some cannot see a difference.
My statement would only be offensive to Muslims or Muslim sympathizers, wheather they know they are sympathizers or not.
What I said is the truth which is something Liberals have the hardest time accepting.
Liberals set themselves up as social judges of society. They think they were put here to decide what people should or shouldn't say.
I did not invite, nor do I accept your ridiculous Liberal judgments or your typical Liberal fear mongering statements about starting WW III.
To borrow a line from the late Ronald Reagan..... "There you go again".....
This has absolutely NOTHING to do with the topic at hand. You could find Conservatives in Canada who say the same thing.
Originally Posted by God_Owned
Wake up! WW III has already begun and I would rather see that than ever be under Muslim rule.
No one is suggesting you being under Muslim rule. It is quite possible for Muslim, Christians, Hindus and people of other faiths to live together peacefully.
Originally Posted by God_Owned
I'm so glad you have given me permission to think and speak freely.
I assume this is some attempt at humour.
Originally Posted by God_Owned
The actions of Muslims make my statements self-evident to all but the blindest of people.
Not all Muslims, or even a majority, subscribe to this Jihad. Just as some people throughout history have used Christianity as a lame defence for killing, so now some are using Islam. It doesn't reflect the attitude of all Muslims anymore than the crusades or the holocaust reflected the attitudes of all Christians.
Originally Posted by God_Owned
I think you need to move to Iran. They can always use another PR guy.
No thanks. It's too bloody hot there.
Originally Posted by God_Owned
The terrorists said they prefer that Liberals be in power in industrialized Western countries. Why you ask? Because terrorists have a far greater chance of operating freely when naive Liberals are in seats of authority.
Or perhaps its because Liberals are often more accomodating and work toward the greater good of society as a whole rather than defending only isolated segments. It's interesting that Sept. 11 in the USA didn't happen under a Democratic government.
Originally Posted by God_Owned
Then you need to read a lot more.
Originally Posted by God_Owned
I guess that you missed the fact that Muslim murder each other by the millions?
Did you also miss what Jihad is all about? Jihad would be where they exterminate you and me and everyone who is not Muslim.
Do you think the cutting people's heads off in the Spirit of God's love?
Please see above response.
Originally Posted by God_Owned
Where have you been for the last twenty years?
Either Christian or no religion. But never a Muslim.
Originally Posted by God_Owned
Mohamed is a dead false profit who wrote the Quran which has been responsible for deceiving most of the Arab world as well as great numbers of non-Arabs.
Originally Posted by God_Owned
I am certain he got his teaching from the devil who he mistook for the God of Abraham.
Aw, I see, so you DO think Mohamed received his info from the devil. Even so, he still had the monumental task of getting people to believe what he wrote was true.
Originally Posted by God_Owned
Do you know how to Google?
Yes, but I never came across a response that Allah was the devil. So, I'm thinking you sort of made of that one up on your own.
I have heard the Allah is the Devil statement from a few people. The idea behind it is that any god other than God is either the Devil himself or one of his minions. At least, that's the way I understood that view.
To borrow a line from the late Ronald Reagan..... "There you go again".....
I knew Ronal Reagan. he was a friend of mine and your no Ronald Reagan
This has absolutely NOTHING to do with the topic at hand. You could find Conservatives in Canada who say the same thing.
I doubt I will ever find anything in Canada as I don't expect to ever go there. Actually, I rarely ever think of Canada. ...I mean why should I?
No one is suggesting you being under Muslim rule. It is quite possible for Muslim, Christians, Hindus and people of other faiths to live together peacefully.
It is? When in history has that ever happened. One belief always over takes another in the end.
How did you plan on living in peace with people who want you dead? Typical liberal sophestry.
I'm so glad you have given me permission to think and speak freely.
I assume this is some attempt at humour.
Actually it is my attempt to get you to understand that you actually think that someone wants or needs you approval to think what they choose. ...also you should consider running spell-check. Your education is showing.
Not all Muslims, or even a majority, subscribe to this Jihad. Just as some people throughout history have used Christianity as a lame defence for killing, so now some are using Islam. It doesn't reflect the attitude of all Muslims anymore than the crusades or the holocaust reflected the attitudes of all Christians.
The Qur'an subscribe to Jihad and when push comes to shove, most all Muslims will surrender to the Qur'an's dictates. You really don't understand what Muslims are all about do you?
I think you need to move to Iran. They can always use another PR guy.
No thanks. It's too bloody hot there.
...and they want to make it bloody hot here to. Can you spell thermonuclear?
The terrorists said they prefer that Liberals be in power in industrialized Western countries. Why you ask? Because terrorists have a far greater chance of operating freely when naive Liberals are in seats of authority.
Or perhaps its because Liberals are often more accomodating and work toward the greater good of society as a whole rather than defending only isolated segments. It's interesting that Sept. 11 in the USA didn't happen under a Democratic government.
On no. It is because Liberals are easy to deceive. The vulnerability which permitted 9/11 to happen was established by the felon Clinton. He gutted the CIA and the US Military, the same people who provide security for you liberal Country. I guess he was to busy disgracing the Office of the President with his party and a pizza with Monica.
Either Christian or no religion. But never a Muslim.
...no religion? Are you a born-again Spirit-filled WOF Christian?
Aw, I see, so you DO think Mohamed received his info from the devil. Even so, he still had the monumental task of getting people to believe what he wrote was true.
You should understand that Mohamed has been dead and gone to hell for more than a few years now. People are only pawns of the devil who knows exactly how to deceive people by getting them to believe in Islam.
Yes, but I never came across a response that Allah was the devil. So, I'm thinking you sort of made of that one up on your own.
You should really read more. you might find conversation like this less painful.
God_Owned...it would be nice to see a little of that scripture that you have in your profile coming to light here. Remember: Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; Not only do you seem to be going after Mark a bit more than seems necessary, but your entire view against the Muslims seems a bit too harsh. Call me a Muslim-sympathizer or whatever you want, but God's command for us to love one another applies to loving them too. I'm not supporting the Islamic religion, I disagree with it as much as the next person, but I also firmly believe that all of this anger and hate towards the religion isn't going to get us anywhere. A soft answer turns away wrath, is that not also in the Bible? Just because they are violent and hateful doesn't mean that we have to treat them so in return (which a few of your comments have made it seem your viewpoint is). So far as I can tell, no Christian has changed the world and impacted a people for Christ by letting them know how much they despised their religion and how wrong they are. Those who impact others for Christ are those who go in with hearts of love and "let their lights shine before men." So far as fears of muslims taking over the world, where's your faith in God. Truly, God is working on this earth, and He does reign supreme. Last I checked, this entire battle against Islam was a spiritual battle..."for we do not wrestle against flesh and blod, but against principalities, against powers, against the rules of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places."
So far as other things go:
Please pay attention to all that I say, because if you had you would have noticed that I said that there is definitely satanic influence in Islam, as there is in any religion that is not Christianity (or for atheists for that matter), but that doesn't mean that those who don't worship God are worshipping Satan.
So far as googling for information, most things just aren't credible. Finding valid information takes a lot more effort than just doing a simple google search.
I'm not trying to be impetuous or anything similar to that here, just voicing my thoughts and observations, like everyone else seems to be doing.
She's really smart this girl. *watching to see how long she lasts in the ring* Just talking to myself. LOL *whistles my way out the door*
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Until the life of the Christian is so obviously different from the life of the sinner, why should the sinner want what the Christian has?
I think it was Avi Lypkin who said (concerning Muslims): Love them, pray for them, but never turn your back on them.
Understand that there will be NO peace on this earth apart from Christ and there will be no peace throughout the whole earth until the Christ vanquishes the enemy once and for all.
We can not escape the aspect of fighting in this life but we must remember that altho the battlegrounds may be physical the war is spiritual.
Also, anyone not worshiping the one true God is practicing idolotry and it is a sin. Does it matter if the object of worship is technically the devil or not?
I just didn't get to this thread yet. I 'm not on all the time now and when I did come on I had other things to do first and then got side tracked. 
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