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14th July 2003, 01:53 AM
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Reps: 45 (power: 0) | | | There seems to be a need to discuss the Trinity, and rather than have the Is Yeshua YWHW thread derailed I have split off the posts that address the trinity, because this is a side issue to that thread.
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17th August 2003, 08:33 PM
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When one considers the works or the fruits of those great religious institutions that worship a trinity god.....one can only be repelled.
"By their fruits you will recognize them."- saith the Lord.
Throughout history......since the death of the apostles......and the degeneration of Christianity....much blood has been sown.
So-called christian has killed so-called christian.
During WWII German Lutherans and German Catholics killed American Lutherans and American Catholics.
During the American Civil War.... Southern Baptist has killed Northern Bapitst.
Think of what the German trinity worshipers did to
the Jews during the Holocaust.
The history of trinity worshipers is mired in blood and affliction.
Who would want to be part of such religious institutions!?! |
17th August 2003, 08:53 PM
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Reps: 1,566 (power: 12) | | Originally Posted by lared When one considers the works or the fruits of those great religious institutions that worship a trinity god.....one can only be repelled.
"By their fruits you will recognize them."- saith the Lord.
Throughout history......since the death of the apostles......and the degeneration of Christianity....much blood has been sown.
So-called christian has killed so-called christian.
During WWII German Lutherans and German Catholics killed American Lutherans and American Catholics.
During the American Civil War.... Southern Baptist has killed Northern Bapitst.
Think of what the German trinity worshipers did to
the Jews during the Holocaust.
The history of trinity worshipers is mired in blood and affliction.
Who would want to be part of such religious institutions!?!
"By their fruits you will recognize them."- says the Lord. You're 100% right. And by your fruits I can see that you're out to judge. Did this word come to you from God, or did it only come from you?
God's Church is not any institution. Nor is it an institution.
And to stand by the very words of Paul, "Jesus IS Lord YHWH." (Romans 10:9, 10:10, 1 Corinthians 12:3)
Shlomo,
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17th August 2003, 10:21 PM
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Reps: 9 (power: 0) | | | trinities. Ra, Isis, Osiris
Brahma,Shiva, Krishna
Baal, Semiramis, Tammuz
Bel, Ishtar,Duzu
Zeus, Demeter, Porephene
Apollo, Athena,Nike
In Japan, San Pao Fuh means one deity three forums
The trinity is rooted in many forms of pagan worship.
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17th August 2003, 10:52 PM
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Reps: 1,566 (power: 12) | | Originally Posted by Sabian trinities.
(1) Ra, Isis, Osiris
(2) Brahma,Shiva, Krishna
(3) Baal, Semiramis, Tammuz
(4) Bel, Ishtar,Duzu
(5) Zeus, Demeter, Porephene
(6) Apollo, Athena,Nike
(7) In Japan, San Pao Fuh means one deity three forums
The trinity is rooted in many forms of pagan worship.
All 7 of those are not Trinities :-)
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 are three separate gods.
7 is one deity in three forms only one capable of manifestation at a time, not one deity existing simultaneously in three facets.
This only shows that you do not comprehend the abstract concept of a trinity. :-)
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19th August 2003, 09:34 PM
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Reps: 26 (power: 0) | | | Belief in the trinity is not my salvation.
Faith in Yeshua is.
I'm an auto mechanic. I struggle hard enough with faith that I'll be able to feed my kids every month. I'm defianately not going to struggle with the nature of God.
One thing I do know is, those of us who would make the issue of paramount importance had better hope they are correct when they define the nature of God.
I've seen those on both sides of the fence say that either you must believe in the trinity or you are lost, and vice versa.
God never said either.
I neither reject it nor accept it. I simply believe the scriptures are insuffient when it comes to defining the exact nature of God, and refuse to make it a salvational issue. For if I were wrong, what words would the father have for me on that day? |
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20th August 2003, 12:00 PM
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Reps: 45 (power: 0) | | Good Grief! I split this off from another thread that was being derailed by the subject of trinity and now the subject of Trinity is being derailed.So I have split off the posts that were discussing Aramaic into its own thread.
Let's All PLEASE stay on the topic of Trinity  Thank You! 
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Let Asher be blessed with children;
Let him be acceptable to his brethren,
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20th August 2003, 12:42 PM
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Hi there Mtown!
I see that you are new to Christian Forums, and was wondering if you realized that you posted in the Messianic Judaism Forum? If so, what "terrible misunderstanding of Christianity" do you think that we have?
The site you posted are words from Justin Martyr, hardly a crusader for the Jewish cause. From what I can see many of his "talks" or writings are extremly Anti-Jewish, the only thing that is Jewish that I haven't seen him trash is Yeshua himself ( who still remains Jewish). But again what does that have to do with the Trinity? Justin:"Then is it Jacob the patriarch in whom the Gentiles and yourselves shall trust? or is it not Christ? As, therefore, Christ is the Israel and the Jacob, even so we, who have been quarried out from the bowels of Christ, are the true Israelitic race."
I seriously doubt that upon hearing this that "Trypho, a Jew" ever even considered "converting to Christianity".  Not very poetic to say the least and more importantly, wrong.
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20th August 2003, 08:08 PM
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Reps: 12 (power: 0) | | | Justin Martyr in the the statement that you chose to quote and highlight, is stating that Christians have become the inheritors of the "People of God."
I do want to sound antagonistic here, but did you read the other article I posted? One of the problems as I was reading in this thread, is a complete lack of understanding of the Holy Trinity. I posted both articles because one is devoted to the Holy Spirit, and the other is devoted to Jesus Christ. If one wants to seriously understand the Trinity, one should read St. Basil's book on the Holy Spirit.
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