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27th April 2007, 09:03 PM
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27th April 2007, 09:07 PM
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27th April 2007, 11:06 PM
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28th April 2007, 01:17 AM
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Reps: 4,491,473,292,909,203 (power: 4,491,473,292,926) | | Originally Posted by UberLutheran I can give you proof (from my own extended family, even), but you and I both know three things:
1) You will discount any source I give.
2) If I post comments from individual family members, and the Scriptures cited, you'll say my post isn't "debatable" because I'm using personal experience.
3) If I give the Scriptures they cite, you'll discount what *I* post with some comment to the effect of I'm "just trying to pervert the Scriptures and trying to justify a sinful lifestyle."
You and I have been down this path over, and over, and OVER again -- and each time the results have been exactly the same; and now you want me to go down the same path with you, again.
Wasn't it enough that when I posted a poll asking if I should stay or leave this forum, suddenly (mysteriously!) 15 people voted that I should leave -- and you were parked in the thread watching (because I saw your user name the entire time). Evidently not.
A definition of insanity is doing the same thing five times in a row and expecting different results.
So, if I may play Charlie Brown to your Lucy for one second: "No, Lucy: I'm NOT going to kick the football!" [Charlie Brown turns and walks away.]
Find someone else to play this silly game with you. I'm not doing it.
You are one paraniod individual.
And I leave my internet on for your information. And as I stated if anyone who is familar with orthodoxy and directly contradicts it is not worth listening too.
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28th April 2007, 02:56 AM
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Reps: 4,491,473,292,909,203 (power: 4,491,473,292,926) | | Originally Posted by UberLutheran I wasn't aware that The Elect had to repent about anything.
The Elect have their passport to Heaven and their entrance papers are all in a row -- my understanding is that all "The Elect" have to do is make the rest of us aware that "we" are not one of "them", so "we" are gonna fry.
Then clearly you aren't familiar with RT. | 
28th April 2007, 02:57 AM
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Reps: 4,491,473,292,909,203 (power: 4,491,473,292,926) | | Originally Posted by BAFRIEND
Is this some kind of protestant thing ?
I was one once, so it is kind of vague.
My experience is that when a Born Again messes up the other Born Agains write it off, saying the person was never saved because he must not have been sincere when he asked Jesus to enter his heart.
Maybe that is what my Born Again family feels about me ? That when I was seven and was saved, and actually believed Jesus was in my heart as a physical presence, that I was a liar little boy.
It's a UberLutheran misrepresenting people (like always) thing.../the end.
BTW UBER you should read the Westminister Confession of Faith Sometime...like Chapter XV I. Repentance unto life is an evangelical grace,[1] the doctrine whereof is to be preached by every minister of the Gospel, as well as that of faith in Christ.[2]
II. By it, a sinner, out of the sight and sense not only of the danger, but also of the filthiness and odiousness of his sins, as contrary to the holy nature, and righteous law of God; and upon the apprehension of His mercy in Christ to such as are penitent, so grieves for, and hates his sins, as to turn from them all unto God,[3] purposing and endeavouring to walk with Him in all the ways of His commandments.[4]
III. Although repentance is not to be rested in, as any satisfaction for sin, or any cause of the pardon thereof,[5] which is the act of God's free grace in Christ,[6] yet it is of such necessity to all sinners, that none may expect pardon without it.[7]
IV. As there is no sin so small, but it deserves damnation;[8] so there is no sin so great, that it can bring damnation upon those who truly repent.[9]
V. Men ought not to content themselves with a general repentance, but it is every man's duty to endeavor to repent of his particular sins, particularly.[10]
VI. As every man is bound to make private confession of his sins to God, praying for the pardon thereof;[11] upon which, and the forsaking of them, he shall find mercy;[12] so he that scandelizeth his brother, or the Church of Christ, ought to be willing, by a private or public confession and sorrow for his sin, to declare his repentance to those that are offended;[13] who are thereupon to be reconciled to him, and in love to receive him.[14]
I know you will say anything to manipulate people to your agenda especially to that of homosexuality. But you should aleast be aware of others theological positions first.
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28th April 2007, 05:07 AM
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Faith is nothing without works.
I'd do my best to abstain from active homosexuality out of love for God. | 
28th April 2007, 05:25 AM
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Reps: 19,891 (power: 27) | | | I would repent and practice celibacy like some of the others posted. I really dont know because my current mindset is biased against joining that lifestyle and my mindset also says I would rather repent my sins and ask for forgiveness and then immediately attempt suicide. Of course if my mindset was biased towards joining said lifestyle my response would probably be much different....nevertheless my statement is not meant as any form of disrespect but my own opinion.....however the whole focus on gay threads in this forum makes me wonder why there are so many of these threads. this one really takes the cake though because it seems to be a bait thread IMO....seeing our reactions but IDK | 
28th April 2007, 06:12 AM
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Reps: 8,749 (power: 16) | | Originally Posted by UberLutheran The caveat is that the things which have been said or have occurred within the context of my post are specific to my more-or-less extended family and does NOT apply to all members of these denominations:
The denominations are:
- Church of Christ
- Primitive Baptist
Is this true or are you just being sarcastic? Do these people really think that "being saved" is forever? You can go ahead and live a life of misery, destruction, etc..and b/c you are saved, you're good and the rest don't know the truth? WOW. Amazing. No wonder why religion gets a bad rap by so many and is the cause of every war we've ever had. | 
28th April 2007, 06:15 AM
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Reps: 8,749 (power: 16) | | Originally Posted by NewGuy101 It's a UberLutheran misrepresenting people (like always) thing.../the end.
BTW UBER you should read the Westminister Confession of Faith Sometime...like Chapter XV
I know you will say anything to manipulate people to your agenda especially to that of homosexuality. But you should aleast be aware of others theological positions first.
here we go again. NewGuy finding his way into yet ANOTHER gay thread just to say this usual..."prove it". Ubber is talking about HIS FAMILY!!! Perhaps you should go and meet them and talk to them face to face? I wish you would sit back and read your posts. I try to remain silent, and keep giving you the benefit of the doubt, but every single response you post is always so defensive and arguementative, I gotta hand it to Uber on this one. Why continue to do so? That's why I stated many posts ago, I'm just not responding to you anymore. Its a futile attempt to be reasonable with you. | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | | | |