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21st August 2003, 12:18 PM
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21st August 2003, 12:29 PM
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21st August 2003, 01:04 PM
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Reps: 33,304 (power: 47) | | Originally Posted by Jet Black space time was created in the big bang itself... there is no before, by definition!
Unless of course the ten-dimensional superstring theory holds true, in that case the universe split into two: one of four dimensions (ours) and one of sixe dimensions which promptly collapsed into Calabi-Yau space... or was it Kaluza-Klein. Darn, I am not very good with remembering vocabulary.
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21st August 2003, 01:24 PM
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I was. If I was being serious I would have picked something by Nine Inch Nails. | 
21st August 2003, 02:29 PM
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21st August 2003, 02:54 PM
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21st August 2003, 05:31 PM
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LOL...That would have been a good choice, I like them too. | 
21st August 2003, 05:38 PM
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That is always a possibilty, the initial matter had to come from somewhere, no doubt about that. That is why it is called, "one of the mysteries of the Universe," because there is no proof how it happened or why. I think it was a little more technical than, "speaking", but it sure makes a nice bumper sticker. | 
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in essence, what happened prior to the big bang is irrelevant since it can have no effect upon our universe. the laws of classical physics breaks down at the singularity or the event horizon.
what i found personally quite ironic is that, after spending the time to convince the physicists that he was right (Hawking), he's now got to go back to them and tell them that he was wrong the first time around  he remarks on this very thing in his revised edition of A Brief History of Time.
seems that he and Penrose were a bit mistaken with their original work.. Hawking is now expounding the No Boundary Proposal coupled with the Anthropic Principle (and he's reconcilced the weak and strong versions) to describe a finite space/time without boundaries.
what is also quite amusing is that the Catholic Church, in 1957, accepted the Big Bang as the proof of the existence of God  i wonder how easily they can revise their theories?
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