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20th August 2003, 06:41 AM
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Reps: 5,749 (power: 18) | | Originally Posted by kiwichristian Thats rubbish. A christian wouldnt make up that, because the theory dismisses God altogether.
Which shows exactly how little you know about the big bang theory.
Unless you can explain which element of it requires that God not exist?
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20th August 2003, 06:51 AM
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20th August 2003, 07:10 AM
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Ah. God = one person's personal interpretation of Scripture. Gotcha. | 
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20th August 2003, 07:41 AM
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Reps: 17 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by kiwichristian Thats rubbish. A christian wouldnt make up that, because the theory dismisses God altogether.
Theories aren't just made up out of thin air. Data suggested that all galaxies are speeding away fromeach other therefore extropolate backwards and they all come from a single point. This single point 'exploded' into the universe we know today. Subsequent evidence has more than backed up this theory.
And before anyone nitpicks this is a very simplified explaination....
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20th August 2003, 07:43 AM
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Reps: 16,712 (power: 43) | | Originally Posted by Mainframes Theories aren't just made up out of thin air. Data suggested that all galaxies are speeding away fromeach other therefore extropolate backwards and they all come from a single point. This single point 'exploded' into the universe we know today. Subsequent evidence has more than backed up this theory.
And before anyone nitpicks this is a very simplified explaination....
sorry, I have to nitpick:
well it was verified after it was proposed. As it explains in that link I posted, it was originally posed by someone having studied relativity, and then justified later. Furthermore, I feel compelled to nitpick the word "exploded" ... it is very unhelpful to physicists trying to explain that it isn't like a bomb or something.
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20th August 2003, 07:46 AM
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Reps: 17 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Jet Black sorry, I have to nitpick:
well it was verified after it was proposed. As it explains in that link I posted, it was originally posed by someone having studied relativity, and then justified later. Furthermore, I feel compelled to nitpick the word "exploded" ... it is very unhelpful to physicists trying to explain that it isn't like a bomb or something.
Point taken. I asked not to be nitpicked becaquse I knew some of my explaination wasn't the best and couldnt be bothered to improve it. I will function better when I wake up properly...!
Cheers for the clarification. I shall take back exploded and rather say expanded rapidly into the universe we observe today.
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20th August 2003, 08:13 AM
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Cheers for the clarification. I shall take back exploded and rather say expanded rapidly into the universe we observe today.
given any other environment I wouldn't have nitpicked, since I knew perfectly well what you meant, but given the educational state of some of the people who argue against science in here, I thought it was actually important.
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20th August 2003, 08:17 AM
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As soon as I saw your post I mentally slapped myself for being lazy when it was important not to be so. Have woken up now....mmmm Red Bull!
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