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22nd August 2003, 11:07 AM
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Reps: 307 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by kiwichristian If it WAS a big bang, where do you think it came from? Did a whole lot of gases just mix together, or form together, to produce it? If so, where would the gases have come from?
To me, those are interesting questions.
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Reps: 33,077,529,582,287,784 (power: 33,077,529,582,305) | | Originally Posted by kiwichristian If it WAS a big bang, where do you think it came from? Did a whole lot of gases just mix together, or form together, to produce it? If so, where would the gases have come from?
To me, those are interesting questions.
Namaste kiwichristian,
the Big Bang is a derogatory term used to describe the theory and it was coined by a Christian to boot 
in any event, it wasn't really a "bang" as an explosion would be since there was nothing for it to expand into. the words sort of throw us off the right track when thinking about it.
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Reps: 2,470 (power: 17) | | Originally Posted by Karl - Liberal Backslider I don't think Genesis is primarily concerned with the nuts and bolts of creation. It has a few points to make - God did it (ours, not yours, it was saying to the cultures around). He did it how He wanted (not necessarily how the YECs want Him to have done it), He didn't battle against primaeval chaos - He spoke, it happened. The sun, moon and stars are not gods, just lights that God created. And God created with purpose - three days of preparation, three days of filling.
Okay. This appears to encompass most of early Genesis. I don't really disagree with your interpretation, nor do I think it disagrees with my assertion that the authors of the Bible were merely transcribing their creation beliefs to the best of their abilities. The creation week also symbolises the working week - six days of working, one of resting.
Actually, I think it's the other way around. the Fall story is not, IMHO, about what two putative ancestors did thousands of years ago; it is what I and every other person on this planet does on a daily basis. It shows God's response - He's ticked, but also He will provide the solution to the problem. The man and woman become aware of their nakedness; He makes them clothes. Evil will attack them, but God, through the woman, will provide redemption. And so on and so forth.
I see a problem with a non-literal Fall, though. I don't see that God would condemn sinful beings unless they're really sinful. But without a "sinful nature" (aka "original sin"), there is a nonzero probability that some person will lead a sinless life. Thus, that person would be entitled, by God's rules, to go to heaven without having to accept Christ as savior. Unless not accepting Christ is a sin in and of itself, but I think that creates way more continuity problems than it solves.  |
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Originally Posted by kiwichristian Hey all,
Just a question to ask you:
Do you believe in the Big Bang Theory?
I myself think its ridiculous. Whoever thought up this theory must of been short of a brain 
well i think that it is stupid and tht people need to find the truth but we cant chang what people think |
27th September 2004, 11:02 AM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by LorentzHA Indeed. Here is an interesting quote I think you will enjoy.
"There is a theory that states: 'If anyone finds out what the universe is for it will disappear and be replaced by something more bizarrely inexplicable.' There is another theory that states: 'This has already happened.'" --Douglas Adams
i agree, if it was a big bang, every thing came from some were |
27th September 2004, 11:09 AM
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primarily because there are. anyway, why do you dig up a thread that is over a year old?
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Originally Posted by Jet Black primarily because there are. anyway, why do you dig up a thread that is over a year old?
why do you say there are????????????????? 
i know that there is other religions, and i am not puting them domwn, btu why do you say that,
i did not know that this was talked about befor |
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Reps: 16,712 (power: 43) | | Originally Posted by christbearer07 why do you say there are?????????????????
because there are. three of them are Odin, Zeus and Krishna. i know that there is other religions, and i am not puting them domwn, btu why do you say that,
It's how I view Gods - human constructs. I put Gods in a similar category to "ideas" i did not know that this was talked about befor
you can tell the age of the thread by looking at the top left hand corner of the posts.
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