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If it WAS a big bang, where do you think it came from? Did a whole lot of gases just mix together, or form together, to produce it? If so, where would the gases have come from?
To me, those are interesting questions.
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"There is a theory that states: 'If anyone finds out what the universe is for it will disappear and be replaced by something more bizarrely inexplicable.' There is another theory that states: 'This has already happened.'" --Douglas Adams
If it WAS a big bang, where do you think it came from? Did a whole lot of gases just mix together, or form together, to produce it? If so, where would the gases have come from?
To me, those are interesting questions.
Namaste kiwichristian,
the Big Bang is a derogatory term used to describe the theory and it was coined by a Christian to boot
in any event, it wasn't really a "bang" as an explosion would be since there was nothing for it to expand into. the words sort of throw us off the right track when thinking about it.
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I don't think Genesis is primarily concerned with the nuts and bolts of creation. It has a few points to make - God did it (ours, not yours, it was saying to the cultures around). He did it how He wanted (not necessarily how the YECs want Him to have done it), He didn't battle against primaeval chaos - He spoke, it happened. The sun, moon and stars are not gods, just lights that God created. And God created with purpose - three days of preparation, three days of filling.
Okay. This appears to encompass most of early Genesis. I don't really disagree with your interpretation, nor do I think it disagrees with my assertion that the authors of the Bible were merely transcribing their creation beliefs to the best of their abilities.
The creation week also symbolises the working week - six days of working, one of resting.
Actually, I think it's the other way around.
the Fall story is not, IMHO, about what two putative ancestors did thousands of years ago; it is what I and every other person on this planet does on a daily basis. It shows God's response - He's ticked, but also He will provide the solution to the problem. The man and woman become aware of their nakedness; He makes them clothes. Evil will attack them, but God, through the woman, will provide redemption. And so on and so forth.
I see a problem with a non-literal Fall, though. I don't see that God would condemn sinful beings unless they're really sinful. But without a "sinful nature" (aka "original sin"), there is a nonzero probability that some person will lead a sinless life. Thus, that person would be entitled, by God's rules, to go to heaven without having to accept Christ as savior. Unless not accepting Christ is a sin in and of itself, but I think that creates way more continuity problems than it solves.
Indeed. Here is an interesting quote I think you will enjoy.
"There is a theory that states: 'If anyone finds out what the universe is for it will disappear and be replaced by something more bizarrely inexplicable.' There is another theory that states: 'This has already happened.'" --Douglas Adams
i agree, if it was a big bang, every thing came from some were
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