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18th August 2003, 05:21 PM
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Reps: 152 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Dayton There was a Flood, and it did cover Egypt.
Wrong on both points. The Flood only lasted a year, so it would appear that there was no interruption to observers thousands of years later.
Nope. The fact that the alleged flood only lasted a year doesn't really matter. It would have left behind evidence (which it didn't), and it would have still taken Egypt hundreds of years - if ever - to recover. Yet Egypt never went through any such period. The Bible is God-Breathed fact, every single word is true.
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18th August 2003, 06:03 PM
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Reps: 295,212,687,427,838,720 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Dayton Pyramids are pretty solid structures, so they could probably withstand the Flood.
Are we talking about the same flood that supposedly carved the Grand Canyon out of 277 miles of northern Arizona? There is no evidence that the egyptians lived through the Flood.
"No evidence" except for the millions of Egyptians alive today.
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18th August 2003, 06:52 PM
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Lets say the flood happend, guess what, it killed everyone except for 8 people. There would be a major interuption in egyptian history as the entire egyptian civililization would have been killed. It would have ended, completly, not hiccuped, but ended.
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18th August 2003, 07:07 PM
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Reps: 18,396 (power: 33) | | | Yes, that actually is true, when we get down to brass tacks. If the flood was a global destruction, then Egyptian civilization would simply have ceased to be and what arose in its place would be wholly and entirely different than what had gone before. But this is not what happened, not by a long shot. |
19th August 2003, 09:11 AM
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Which version? |
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Reps: 5,749 (power: 18) | | Originally Posted by Dayton Pyramids are pretty solid structures, so they could probably withstand the Flood. There is no evidence that the egyptians lived through the Flood.
These would be the same pyramids that are built on (and indeed from) the same miles and miles of sedimentary rock strata that were allegedly laid down during the Flood? There was a Flood, and it did cover Egypt. The Flood only lasted a year, so it would appear that there was no interruption to observers thousands of years later.
So the people who built the pyramids were not the people who lived in Egypt after the flood, even though they spoke the same language, used the same hieroglyphics etc. etc.? The Bible is God-Breathed fact, every single word is true.
Non-sequitur
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20th August 2003, 02:23 AM
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This is not even considering how a population large enough to support and promote this EXACT same culture, religion, language and politics came about so soon after the flood as create a seamless historical record.
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Vance,
For your information, the human body can procreate to a large number rather quickly. The estimated population of the earth at the time that Cain killed Abel is 32,000 people.
THAT was with a beginning of "two". Noah's three sons would be a generation ahead of Cain and Abel as they were already married.
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20th August 2003, 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Vance Yes, that actually is true, when we get down to brass tacks. If the flood was a global destruction, then Egyptian civilization would simply have ceased to be and what arose in its place would be wholly and entirely different than what had gone before. But this is not what happened, not by a long shot.
Vance,
There is enough time in the chronology for the flood to have occurred before the beginnings of civilizations in Egypt. The 6,000-10,000 year time frame allows for that.
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And your getting this from the bible?
Or from one of those creationist groups that treat the human population like an exponential equation and pretend thats how it worked in real life?
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20th August 2003, 02:33 AM
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Reps: 3,202,689,982,729,637 (power: 3,202,689,982,740) | | Originally Posted by Malaka Vance,
For your information, the human body can procreate to a large number rather quickly. The estimated population of the earth at the time that Cain killed Abel is 32,000 people.
THAT was with a beginning of "two". Noah's three sons would be a generation ahead of Cain and Abel as they were already married.
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So how long would it take for Egypt, India, Mesopotamia, and China to have regained populations large enough to support a well developed culture? Were these people also migrating into Europe, Africa, Australia, and the Americas at the same time or did they wait for these other cultures to get on their feet before they expanded there?
Oh, and did women ever die during childbirth back then or is that a more recent development? Childhood diseases anyone? As of the 19th century infant mortality rates were around 25% (and I would assume it to be higher 4,000 years ago). Is that figured into your "estimated population"?
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