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27th August 2003, 09:06 AM
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Reps: 86 (power: 0) | | | I believe in god-inspired evolution, meaning God did create evolution to help his creation grow.
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29th August 2003, 07:46 PM
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Reps: 281 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by JesseB. I believe in god-inspired evolution, meaning God did create evolution to help his creation grow.
Another brother baited and hooked.
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29th August 2003, 07:55 PM
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Reps: 18,396 (power: 33) | | | Crusader, are you saying that God did *not* create the process of evolution?
Which part is not true?
Does evolution not happen?
Or did God not create the process? |
29th August 2003, 11:04 PM
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Reps: 281 (power: 0) | | | Vance said = Crusader, are you saying that God did *not* create the process of evolution?
No, I am saying that God did not create using evolution, therefore it did not occur.
Which part is not true?
The part that is not supported by scripture - and that practically encompasses the whole sacred cow of evolution.
Does evolution not happen?
Speciation or variations within a kind, yes. Mud to man evolution, no.
Or did God not create the process?
No it is not the method God used in creating - it is a man made, government funded fairytale to discredit God, and it is nothing more than a poorly supported excuse to turn away from the inevitable fact that God is creator.
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"to give truth to him who loves it not is only to give him more plentiful material for misrepresentation." - George MacDonald "The foundationless, fantastic edifice of the evolution doctrine would long ago have met with its long deserved fate were it not that the love of fairy tales is so deep-rooted in the hearts of man." - Albert Fleischmann
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31st August 2003, 01:41 PM
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Reps: 62,343 (power: 74) | | Originally Posted by Crusadar Speciation or variations within a kind, yes. Mud to man evolution, no.
Speciation is evolution, in reality species is all there is.
Abiogenesis is not evolution. No it is not the method God used in creating - it is a man made, government funded fairytale to discredit God, and it is nothing more than a poorly supported excuse to turn away from the inevitable fact that God is creator.
Fairytale? Yes, because talking snakes, magic trees, anthropromorphic gods, etc is nothing like a fairy tale. :rolleyes:
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2nd September 2003, 07:42 PM
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Reps: 18,396 (power: 33) | | | OK, Crusader, you say that speciation happens within "kinds". Do you believe this happens the way evolutionary biologists say it happens? Meaning, do you think that this "inter-kind" speciation and variation happens through the processes described by the theory of evolution?
[hint: most Christian Creation Scientists accept that speciation and variation are caused by the forces that are described by the theory of evolution, they just insist that it only provides for changes within a "kind"] |
2nd September 2003, 08:08 PM
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Reps: 6 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by wblastyn He doesn't know what he's talking about since most Christians accept evolution with no problems. If it destroyed Christianity then Christians wouldn't accept it would they.
Actually, most Christians do not accept Evolution. And, those who do are just demonstrating the human ability to believe mutually exclusive things simultaneously. |
2nd September 2003, 08:11 PM
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Reps: 18,396 (power: 33) | | | Most Christians in America are succumbing to the allures of YEC'ism, it is true. But world-wide, the majority of Christians still believe as the Pope does, that evolution is a viable explanation for diversity on the planet which is not inconsistent with God as the Creator (a paraphrase and someone can correct me on the details if they like). |
2nd September 2003, 08:29 PM
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Reps: 62,343 (power: 74) | | Originally Posted by Saint Philip Actually, most Christians do not accept Evolution. And, those who do are just demonstrating the human ability to believe mutually exclusive things simultaneously.
Roman Catholics hold the theistic evolution view and RC makes up most of Christianity.
Creationism is really only popular in America and "Americanized" countries, which isn't really surprising considering the things that go on there (suing McDonalds for being fat, aliens abductions, etc). Places like Sweden for instance you'd be laughed at even by the Christiajs if you said you were a creationist.
People who argue against evolution usually have no idea what evolution actually is. Can you tell us what evolution is?
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