Proof of Christianity

Originally Posted by MoinkMan

what if our thoughts is just in our minds and our "soul" is just a huge hoax or lie that we just beleive

'Hoax' would imply that someone is attempting to fool someone. Who is hoaxing who?

'Lie' implies that the 'truth' is known. Who knows the 'truth?'

Both require an objective reality (or a negation of it) that is testable. Religion does not provide that testable reality. It is speculation about things we cannot test.

Research the NDE's of blind people that proves there is a life after death and that we are more than just a body.

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Moink:

You really need to do some in-depth reading. I suggest you start with I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist, by Norman Geisler and Frank Turek. It will explain many things clearly, and answer a lot of questions that you have:



http://www.christianbook.com/Christi...W&view=details

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"Ontogeny and Phylogeny", Harvard University Press

I cut and pasted this from a debate in a different thread. Prophecy for many believers is the anchor of their faith...

Daniel was prophet that was taken captive to Babylon. God used Babylon to meet out judgement upon Judah between 605-586bc. Daniel a man beloved by God was given revelations that confirm the supernatural origin of his message. Daniels 70 Week prophecy is know to the best prophetic scholars as "the backbone of prophecy". The prophecy can be found in Daniel chapter 9.

Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
[25] Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
[26] And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
[27] And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

The three books in the Old Testement that are most Intimately connected with this prophecy are Ezra, Nehemiah and Esther.

The prophecy of Daniel concerns 70 "weeks", the hebrew word is heptad. A heptad is a period of 7 years, like we use decade for a ten year period. That being said the 70 "weeks" is a period of 490 years. The prophet was told that the start of the 490 years would begin when the decree was given to rebuild Jerusalem. remember now that the sinful nation was in Babylon as a result of Gods judgement. The book of Nehemiah records the decree to rebuild the wall and city of Jerusalem after Babylon had fallen to Medio-Persia. History dates this return to the land in 445bc. The book of Ezra was the first group to leave exile, but there purpose was to build the temple. Cyrus the king of Medio-Persia played a major role in freeing the Jews from captivity. Isaiah prophesied this man by name 150 years before he was born.(Cf. Isaiah 45:1). The exiles rebuilded their city and the prophecy clock began. The prophecy is broken down into 7 weeks, 62 weeks and 1 week. The 7 week had to do with the completion of the work in troublous times. The 62 weeks or 434 year was the time period that was going to elapse before the Lord Jesus Christ was going to be executed. The last week has brought much disagreement between libral and conservitive scholars, but is clearly seen a the centerpiece of the book of revelation. There is a parenthesis between the 69 and 70 week. This is not uncommon in scripture, many times when the prophets spoke concerning the Coming of Christ, the first and second advent are in the same chapter and sometimes even in the same verse, as is the example of Isaiah 9:6-7:

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
[7] Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

The book of revelation covers a period of 7 years know as the great tribulation. To the Jews it is know as the Time of Jacobs trouble (Cf.Jer 30:7) Because it all has to do with the Jew and the issue of Jerusalem:

Zech 12:1 [1] The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.
[2] Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.
[3] And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

Pages upon pages can be added, this is the tip of the iceburg, but ill give you a glimps of the Jews reaction:
Zech 13:6
And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends

Praise Jesus Our Lord

First, why would anyone believe that? Second, if our thoughts are just random, electro-chemical reactions, then are laws of thought also so random? How did electricity and chemicals come to "think" anyway? That reaction is totally unprecedented. Third, there seems to me to be something that can't be accounted for and that is the content of thoughts/beliefs/memories. If someone were to look at my brain while I'm remembering, all they would see would be neurons firing away, while I, the one doing the remembering, would see content such as my childhood home or my parents announcing their seperation. And if you look in my brain you will never see a belief, much less the content of my beliefs, even though I have plenty of them. Fourth, how do I have continuity of experience? If I'm just electricity and chemicals reacting together and nothing else, how do I know the things I believe and remember right now are the exact same things that I believed and remembered yesterday? How do I know they will be the same tomorrow?

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