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6th April 2007, 10:23 PM
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This thread has grown out of another - I didn't want to derail the other one.
To fill you all in, I asked "since when do Anglicans reserve the Sacrament" (and quoted the bits in the prayerbook that say it isn't to be done) and Glen replied "since the 2nd century" (by the way, thanks for your reply, Glen  ).
Here's my question...
In my understanding, the Anglican church is both protestant and catholic. But are there many of you who don't consider yourselves protestant at all? And seeing as the prayerbook - being written when it was and by who it was - is dripping with key protestant doctrines, do any of you wish the the liturgy was changed?
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7th April 2007, 01:36 AM
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But I believe more good than bad.
Not specific, and i'm not the target audience, but i thought'd i'd weigh in.
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7th April 2007, 03:00 AM
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Reps: 307,328,592,003,672,256 (power: 307,328,592,003,687) | | | The protestant bits I am not overly fond of are some of the calvinist leanings and some of the things I see as the unreasonable prejudices of the reformation (things like making laws against having candles etc which is just silly)
All in all, I don't feel that those things have ruined, or even really affected the liturgy all that much. Basicly what it comes down to for me is that there are a couple of articles in the 39 that I'd fudge a couple of the lines in. |
7th April 2007, 03:07 AM
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Reps: 186,756 (power: 204) | | Originally Posted by Simon_Templar  The protestant bits I am not overly fond of are some of the calvinist leanings and some of the things I see as the unreasonable prejudices of the reformation (things like making laws against having candles etc which is just silly)
All in all, I don't feel that those things have ruined, or even really affected the liturgy all that much. Basicly what it comes down to for me is that there are a couple of articles in the 39 that I'd fudge a couple of the lines in.
***COUGH...COUGH...article 17....COUGH...COUGH***
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7th April 2007, 05:28 AM
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Reps: 11,884,173,361,472,612 (power: 11,884,173,361,488) | | Originally Posted by Simon_Templar The protestant bits I am not overly fond of are some of the calvinist leanings and some of the things I see as the unreasonable prejudices of the reformation (things like making laws against having candles etc which is just silly)
All in all, I don't feel that those things have ruined, or even really affected the liturgy all that much. Basicly what it comes down to for me is that there are a couple of articles in the 39 that I'd fudge a couple of the lines in.
I think I'm right there with you, Simon. 
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7th April 2007, 04:11 PM
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To answer your questions in the OP, I do not consider myself a Protestant in the strict sense, but rather consider myself a member of the Church Catholic. Of course I take the methodist understanding of what that means.
There was good that came out of the reformation, and there was bad--that goes for both sides.
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7th April 2007, 08:24 PM
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7th April 2007, 09:47 PM
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Reps: 2,383,015,851,206,685 (power: 2,383,015,851,224) | | Originally Posted by JosephtheKansan Fortunately for those of us in America, we don't have to follow the 39 articles and can be as Catholic as we want.
To answer your questions in the OP, I do not consider myself a Protestant in the strict sense, but rather consider myself a member of the Church Catholic. Of course I take the methodist understanding of what that means.
There was good that came out of the reformation, and there was bad--that goes for both sides.
Jo
Acthually those in America seem to be allowed to believe whatever they want.
I am perfectly fine by the way with the 39 articles. If I wanted to be Roman Catholic I would have stayed there.
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7th April 2007, 10:18 PM
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7th April 2007, 10:22 PM
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Reps: 186,756 (power: 204) | | Originally Posted by Simon_Templar I'm a very mixed bag... I'm a somewhat broad church anglo-catholic evangelical charismatic
ME, TOO...BUT YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY..."MUTTS" ALWAYS MAKE THE BEST DOGS...
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"See to it that you teach nothing. . .which you would have religiously held and believed by the people, save what is agreeable to the teaching of the Old or New Testament, and what the Catholic fathers and ancient bishops have collected from this self-same doctrine."
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