This thread has grown out of another - I didn't want to derail the other one.
To fill you all in, I asked "since when do Anglicans reserve the Sacrament" (and quoted the bits in the prayerbook that say it isn't to be done) and Glen replied "since the 2nd century" (by the way, thanks for your reply, Glen ).
Here's my question...
In my understanding, the Anglican church is both protestant and catholic. But are there many of you who don't consider yourselves protestant at all? And seeing as the prayerbook - being written when it was and by who it was - is dripping with key protestant doctrines, do any of you wish the the liturgy was changed?
Alternatively, what protestant elements of the Anglican church do you embrace, if any?
The protestant bits I am not overly fond of are some of the calvinist leanings and some of the things I see as the unreasonable prejudices of the reformation (things like making laws against having candles etc which is just silly)
All in all, I don't feel that those things have ruined, or even really affected the liturgy all that much. Basicly what it comes down to for me is that there are a couple of articles in the 39 that I'd fudge a couple of the lines in.
The protestant bits I am not overly fond of are some of the calvinist leanings and some of the things I see as the unreasonable prejudices of the reformation (things like making laws against having candles etc which is just silly)
All in all, I don't feel that those things have ruined, or even really affected the liturgy all that much. Basicly what it comes down to for me is that there are a couple of articles in the 39 that I'd fudge a couple of the lines in.
***COUGH...COUGH...article 17....COUGH...COUGH***
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The protestant bits I am not overly fond of are some of the calvinist leanings and some of the things I see as the unreasonable prejudices of the reformation (things like making laws against having candles etc which is just silly)
All in all, I don't feel that those things have ruined, or even really affected the liturgy all that much. Basicly what it comes down to for me is that there are a couple of articles in the 39 that I'd fudge a couple of the lines in.
I think I'm right there with you, Simon.
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Thus, if we're not enjoying being in the presence of God, we're doing it wrong -- SirTimothy's Corollary
Fortunately for those of us in America, we don't have to follow the 39 articles and can be as Catholic as we want.
To answer your questions in the OP, I do not consider myself a Protestant in the strict sense, but rather consider myself a member of the Church Catholic. Of course I take the methodist understanding of what that means.
There was good that came out of the reformation, and there was bad--that goes for both sides.
Although I consider myself Anglo-Catholic, I value many evangelical and Protestant influences: relative simplicity of the liturgy, lack of insistence on the Marian dogmas (though the option is there), the possibility of being catholic without a Pope, strong emphasis on the grace of the gospel, closer relations with broader evangelicalism, and more room for doubt or agnosticism on certain doctrines.
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Fortunately for those of us in America, we don't have to follow the 39 articles and can be as Catholic as we want.
To answer your questions in the OP, I do not consider myself a Protestant in the strict sense, but rather consider myself a member of the Church Catholic. Of course I take the methodist understanding of what that means.
There was good that came out of the reformation, and there was bad--that goes for both sides.
Jo
Acthually those in America seem to be allowed to believe whatever they want.
I am perfectly fine by the way with the 39 articles. If I wanted to be Roman Catholic I would have stayed there.
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Lord, make me an instrument of your peace,
Where there is hatred, let me sow love;
where there is injury, pardon;
where there is doubt, faith;
where there is despair, hope;
where there is darkness, light;
where there is sadness, joy; O Divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled as to console;
to be understood as to understand;
to be loved as to love.
I'm a very mixed bag... I'm a somewhat broad church anglo-catholic evangelical charismatic
ME, TOO...BUT YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY..."MUTTS" ALWAYS MAKE THE BEST DOGS...
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