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27th March 2007, 07:08 PM
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Reps: 8,660,483,124 (power: 8,660,491) | | Last non illuminati heads of government in US and EU former countries, revealed first The last US president that was a challenge to the illuminati until the end was JFK.
As JFK was murdered there were two other heads of government that were a challenge for the illuminati, in the former countries that now became EU provinces.
- Charles De Gaulle (France)
- Oliveira Salazar (Portugal),
while Francisco Franco (Spain) and Marcello Caetano, the succesor of Oliveira Salazar, were not a challenge but also not illuminati agents.
After 1975 EVERY government that ruled the US or the EU former countries were illuminati agents, except Reagan. Note: Ronald Reagan was not an illuminati, but after the failed illuminati attempt to murder him, he was no more a challenge for the illuminati, although he always refused to assume the role of just following their orders. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...llumi nati%22 | 
27th March 2007, 09:01 PM
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Reps: 77,146,368,852,982 (power: 77,146,368,866) | | | Hmmm...so...from roughly the mid 60's to the present - call it forty years, give or take - the western world has been under the control of a sinister conspiracy.
Yet that period saw the civil rights movement not only become solidly established, but that movements goals become the law of the land, for the most part.
That period also saw the bulk of the people in the western world get to enjoy a relatively peacefull period and, on balance a much better level of prosperity than was present before.
That period also saw explosive technological growth, that while it has its problems, has also brought many marvels and benefits into our daily lives.
So...either this evil conspiracy attempted to supress all this and failed - which means they are not as powerfull as advertised; or
this conspiracy actually wanted all or most of these things to happen, in which case the conspiracy is beneficial to most of the western world at least some, and possibly most of the time. | 
27th March 2007, 10:11 PM
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Hi. I don't really know what this has to do with CHRIST-ian Apologetics, but I would like to ask, what Biblical relevance does this have. Just curious.
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28th March 2007, 04:27 AM
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My favorite of the Illuminati is the Servants of Cthulhu, but the Bermuda Triangle is cool too. eudaimonia,
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30th March 2007, 02:47 PM
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30th March 2007, 02:52 PM
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30th March 2007, 05:05 PM
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30th March 2007, 05:55 PM
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Reps: 1,017,882,919,370,317,952 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by ImmortalTechnique so one of the worst Presidents, the one who actually was involved in sinister conspiracies, wasn't involved in the Illuminati, but the rest were?
If Reagen is the best the non-Illuminati can do, I'll take my chances with them (although they did give us Bush)
Reagan was the worst President? Ah, I see your 22. You don't remember the cold war and how it felt to think the world could end at any time. To think you'd never reach adulthood or old age, never have kids or see your grandkids. Its all totally lost on you. President Reagan saved us from that and I will always be grateful to him. Rest in peace, Mr President. | 
30th March 2007, 06:05 PM
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