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20th March 2007, 07:39 PM
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Reps: 27,749,724,098,880,132 (power: 27,749,724,098,889) | | Originally Posted by shernren  Scientific theories are only either right or wrong. I can see nothing to indicate that cDK is right, and I am not allowed to post anything here showing that cDK is wrong. Engagement should be done in the OT, by the terms of this forum itself. I am merely inviting it. 
A fair and temperate response.
Hopefully posting here is a learning opportunity. I don't learn much from OT. I did learn about the pulsar problem for Cdecay.
I simply don't know enough to fight every battle there. ITs never one battle. It is usually many at once. Sometimes the assumption is that the battle is where truth is tested. I disagree with that model, regardless of how it sounds.
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20th March 2007, 07:49 PM
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Reps: 41,675,030,468,780,496 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by shernren Oh quit it KM. Whenever someone posts in the Creationist-only section it's simply because they're not willing or prepared to handle TE input. We should respect that. If people don't want to listen, they simply won't listen, whether or not they are wrong or right.
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22nd March 2007, 04:18 PM
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Interesting note about the work of someone named Boudreaux in forming elements out of water plasma, which doesn't have the BB's beryllium problem.
Anyone have access to online materials from Boudreaux?
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22nd March 2007, 07:30 PM
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What beryllium problem? |
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Reps: 27,749,724,098,880,132 (power: 27,749,724,098,889) | | Although Weinberg is a self-described agnostic, he cannot but be astounded by the extent of the fine-tuning. He goes on to describe how a beryllium isotope having the minuscule half life of 0.0000000000000001 seconds must find and absorb a helium nucleus in that split of time before decaying. This occurs only because of a totally unexpected, exquisitely precise, energy match between the two nuclei. If this did not occur there would be none of the heavier elements. No carbon, no nitrogen, no life. Our universe would be composed of hydrogen and helium. But this is not the end of Professor Weinberg's wonder at our well-tuned universe. He continues: http://www.geraldschroeder.com/tuning.html
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Reps: 27,749,724,098,880,132 (power: 27,749,724,098,889) | | Originally Posted by KerrMetric That didn't answer the question but that's OK. I didn't think Schroeder got much credence these days - if he ever got any.
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you do realise that this beryllium issue has nothing to do with the Big Bang don't you? I take it by your above comments you did NOT know this. I know this is not a debate board but wouldn't you like this point clarifying for you to prevent future error.
Since there was no BB, by definition, beryllium would indeed have nothing to do with it.
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