Isaiah 54, a prediction for Islam?

1Sing, O barren, thou that didst not bear; break forth into singing, and cry aloud, thou that didst not travail with child: for more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife, saith the LORD. 2 Enlarge the place of thy tent, and let them stretch forth the curtains of thine habitations: spare not, lengthen thy cords, and strengthen thy stakes; 3 For thou shalt break forth on the right hand and on the left; and thy seed shall inherit the Gentiles, and make the desolate cities to be inhabited. 4 Fear not; for thou shalt not be ashamed: neither be thou confounded; for thou shalt not be put to shame: for thou shalt forget the shame of thy youth, and shalt not remember the reproach of thy widowhood any more. 5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.

6 For the LORD hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when thou wast refused, saith thy God. 7 For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee. 8 In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment; but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the LORD thy Redeemer. 9 For this is as the waters of Noah unto me: for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth; so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee, nor rebuke thee. 10 For the mountains shall depart, and the hills be removed; but my kindness shall not depart from thee, neither shall the covenant of my peace be removed, saith the LORD that hath mercy on thee. 11 O thou afflicted, tossed with tempest, and not comforted, behold, I will lay thy stones with fair colours, and lay thy foundations with sapphires. 12 And I will make thy windows of agates, and thy gates of carbuncles, and all thy borders of pleasant stones. 13 And all thy children shall be taught of the LORD; and great shall be the peace of thy children. 14 In righteousness shalt thou be established: thou shalt be far from oppression; for thou shalt not fear: and from terror; for it shall not come near thee. 15 Behold, they shall surely gather together, but not by me: whosoever shall gather together against thee shall fall for thy sake. 16 Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy. 17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.

And in Genesis
21:17 God heard the boy crying, and the angel of God called to Hagar from heaven and said to her, "What is the matter, Hagar? Do not be afraid; God has heard the boy crying as he lies there. 21:18 Lift the boy up and take him by the hand, for I will make him into a great nation."

what you think?

I think that's a prediction for the EAC.

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Well, the audience of that passage was clearly the Israelis, and therefore it was a passage speaking to the Jews.

I wouldn't call it so much a prediction for Islam as an inspiration.

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6 For the LORD hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when thou wast refused, saith thy God. 7 For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee. 8 In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment; but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the LORD thy Redeemer. 9 For this is as the waters of Noah unto me: for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth; so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee, nor rebuke thee. 10 For the mountains shall depart, and the hills be removed; but my kindness shall not depart from thee, neither shall the covenant of my peace be removed, saith the LORD that hath mercy on thee. 11 O thou afflicted, tossed with tempest, and not comforted, behold, I will lay thy stones with fair colours, and lay thy foundations with sapphires. 12 And I will make thy windows of agates, and thy gates of carbuncles, and all thy borders of pleasant stones. 13 And all thy children shall be taught of the LORD; and great shall be the peace of thy children.

Well, the audience of that passage was clearly the Israelis, and therefore it was a passage speaking to the Jews.

I wouldn't call it so much a prediction for Islam as an inspiration.

I would agree. It sounds a lot like the foundation in the Jewish/Hebrew book of Revelation of which I am studying on that particular chapter now.

http://www.christianforums.com/t4559...emic-book.html
-revelation-a-jewish-polemic-book

Reve 21:12 Also she had a great and high wall with twelve gates, and twelve angels at the gates, and names written on them, which are [the names] of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:............
............19 The foundations of the wall of the city [were] adorned with all kinds of precious stones: the first foundation [was] jasper, the second sapphire, the third chalcedony, the fourth emerald, 20 the fifth sardonyx, the sixth sardius, the seventh chrysolite, the eighth beryl, the ninth topaz, the tenth chrysoprase, the eleventh jacinth, and the twelfth amethyst. 21 The twelve gates [were] twelve pearls: each individual gate was of one pearl. And the street of the city [was] pure gold, like transparent glass.

http://www.kingdombiblestudies.org/priest/RP1.htm
THE ROYAL PRIESTHOOD

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quote FSTDT: From what I've seen, LLJ is a bit of a bible-quoting robot. Often he posts things in General Apologetics that are quite off-topic.
At least he doesn't call Atheists deluded unlike most Christians. I think that he's too far gone to be saved at this point.

Hebrews 2:14 Therefore then, the children have partaken of flesh and blood and He in like manner did partake to the same.
That thru the Death He might take-away the one having the power of the Death, that is the Devil


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well, let's see.. isaiah 52 is talking about the people of israel. 53 has been disputed between israel and the messiah, but as much as i dislike to admit it, i believe it's talking about israel, and so i'm assuming 54 is as well.

i don't understand how on earth that predicts islam.. that makes no sense.

http://www.enduringword.com/commentaries/2354.htm - site of interest on isaiah 54 and it talking about israel and all.

if you know the tanakh well, you will know that never is mohammad predicted.. never. keep bringing verses, but i promise you every one will be debunked. the only verse i can think of that clearly points out to mohammad is isaiah 29, where it predicts a false prophet who will be illeterate.

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Illiterate? Well, I don't think that would apply to Muhammad. Wasn't he supposed to be the author of the Qur'an?

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bump........

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quote FSTDT: From what I've seen, LLJ is a bit of a bible-quoting robot. Often he posts things in General Apologetics that are quite off-topic.
At least he doesn't call Atheists deluded unlike most Christians. I think that he's too far gone to be saved at this point.

Hebrews 2:14 Therefore then, the children have partaken of flesh and blood and He in like manner did partake to the same.
That thru the Death He might take-away the one having the power of the Death, that is the Devil


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yeah, but muslims claim he was illeterate. (hence, that's prolly why he was so good at poetry, as a way to remember things. studies have shown that poetry is much more common for those who can't read or write then it is for those who can.)

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Again this may be a double prophecy like many others in the OT.The ultimate prophecy was fullfiled with islam

some say He copied many thigs from Bible some say He was illitrate this is how He could do a good poetry*..