Would you be so offended?

prince didymus · #31 4th August 2003, 01:39 AM

Originally Posted by Mechanical Bliss

Yes, evolution does occur at present and we observe it. Apparently you do not understand the theory of evolution, however, and intend to reproduce the same, tired strawman arguements like this one.

Strawman eh? :rolleyes:

I've heard that evolution is still going on but yet no one can explain why humans have stopped evolving from animals.

Pete Harcoff · #32 4th August 2003, 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by prince didymus

I've heard that evolution is still going on but yet no one can explain why humans have stopped evolving from animals.

1) We are still animals.

2) We have not stopped evolving.

prince didymus · #33 4th August 2003, 01:43 AM

Originally Posted by Pete Harcoff

1) We are still animals.

Don't know where you got that from. I'm no animal and that has nothing to do with ego.

2) We have not stopped evolving.

I have yet to grow anything extra (hmm gills?

LOL)that'll tell me I'm still evolving.

Mechanical Bliss · #34 4th August 2003, 01:46 AM

Originally Posted by Totally Transformed

Those who are truly seeking the creationist account of how the world began would do well to visit Kent Hovind's web site. He has a standing offer of $250,000 to anyone who can prove to him that evolution is true. No one yet has been able to claim that money. Check out his claims at:
http://www.drdino.com/

Here's yet another person so readily deceived by Hovind, who is even often considered a source without credibility by fellow young earth creationists.

His challenge has very little at all to do with the theory of evolution, so of course the challenge is impossible to meet. He uses a strawman version of evolution that is completely irrelevant to the reality of the theory of evolution. He tries to compile the challenge in such a way that if they irrelevant parts cannot be answered, then the challenge as a whole cannot be met even though his representation of evolution is nothing but an ignorant lie. He redefines evolution such that it no longer falls within the realm of science so that challenge is no longer possible to meet because scientific evidence cannot be provided. Hovind equates evolution with atheism, and in turn wants proof of atheism, and wants nothing at all do to with science because he knows he has been beat on a scientific front--all of his science claims such as a 6,000 year old earth or a global flood have been demonstrated false. Of course, the uninformed laymen who read his site think that is incorrect characterization of evolution is actually correct because it tells them what they want to hear by trying to appeal to their religious beliefs, rather than actual facts.

Mechanical Bliss · #35 4th August 2003, 01:48 AM

Originally Posted by prince didymus

Don't know where you got that from. I'm no animal and that has nothing to do with ego.

It has everything to do with your ego. Humans are animals by definition and by biological classification. Denying that is a function of emotion, not fact.

I have yet to grow anything extra (hmm gills? LOL)that'll tell me I'm still evolving.

Strawman. If you expect to magically grow gills or a chimpanzee to magically turn into a human, then you clearly do not understand the theory of evolution. If you are going to continually misrepresent evolution, it's no wonder that you have a problem accepting it.

Pete Harcoff · #36 4th August 2003, 01:49 AM

Originally Posted by prince didymus

Don't know where you got that from. I'm no animal and that has nothing to do with ego.

We are part of the kingdom Animalia, hence we are animals.

http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu/animalia.html

We are also Chordates, Vertibrates, Mammals, Placentals, and Primates.

I have yet to grow anything extra (hmm gills? LOL)that'll tell me I'm still evolving.

Evolution at its simplest is a change in allele frequencies over subsequent generations in a population. You may not have gills, but you probably have a number of other genetic variations (i.e. mutations) that are unique to your genetic structure.

revolutio · #37 4th August 2003, 01:51 AM

Originally Posted by Jase

For being such close ancestors to primates, its rather odd that humans are the only species on Earth capable of comprehending their own mortality.

Umm, so you are saying absolutely no animal knows to fear death?

That seems a pretty far fetched notion to me.

As for the people calling the idea of us coming from primates "crazy," you should ask yourself why you think it is crazy.

prince didymus · #38 4th August 2003, 01:57 AM

Originally Posted by Pete Harcoff

We are part of the kingdom Animalia, hence we are animals.

We are also Chordates, Vertibrates, Mammals, Placentals, and Primates.
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When I say 'animal' I am referring to people using it to put us on the same level as those that are less intelligent.

Originally Posted by Mechanical Bliss

Strawman. If you expect to magically grow gills or a chimpanzee to magically turn into a human, then you clearly do not understand the theory of evolution. If you are going to continually misrepresent evolution, it's no wonder that you have a problem accepting it.

I didn't say a thing about 'magically' growing anything. It's clear that those who believe in the Bible (i.e. most Christians) will accept and believe that we were created by God himself and that He paid special attention to us. More than likely those who don't believe or follow the Bible won't accept it. It's as simple as that.