creation and age of earth explain thru scriptiure

Two Floods 6000 years from 2nd flood and who knows how much time between 2nd and 1st flood

verses explaining who what why

Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created [john 1:3, hebrews 1:10] the heaven and earth[from nothing]. 2 And the earth became without form [Isa 45:18] and void, and darkness[judgement] was upon the face of the deep[water]. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Isa 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens, God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the Lord; and there is none else


Sin of Lucifer and why Judgement was on the earth

Ezekiel 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus and say unto him, Thus saith the LORD GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. 13 Thou hast been in Eden the Garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. 14 Thou art [Holy Spirit]anointed cherub that covereth ; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God{God's Government}; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity [lack of integrity] was found in thee. 16By the multitude[idea's sold] of thy merchandise they have filled[spread] the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.[eden] 17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reasonof thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. 18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries[holy places more than one] by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.


2 peter 3:5 For they willingly are ignorant of , that by the word of God the heavenswere of old, and the earth standing #1 out of water and #2 thru the water. [two floods] 6 Where by the world that then was being overflowed with water perished

Job 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earh? declare, if thou hast understanding. 5 who hath lais the messures [power/how big God is] thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? 6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof. 7 When the morning stars's sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? [saw stars and universe being created]

son of God this are from indiviul creation not by salvation
job 1:6,2:1,38:7

col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16 For by Him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible,whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by Him and for Him.

world flooded would be impossible today why then?

as it was before the flood it will be during the the 1000 yr reign

Rev 16:18 .... agreat earthquake
REV 16:20 ....every island fled away, and the mountains were not found

This verse is after Rev 16

Isaiah 35:6 Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dump sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert. 7 And parched ground shall become a pool, and thirsty land springs of water: in the habition of dragons, where each lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes

You do realize that this is the science forum, don't you?

Your claims are meaningless if reality does not substantiate them.

Brethren, you started off with the claim of two world-wide floods.

But most of the verses you used tell you the who and why of creation. This is what the Bible is for and no one here is saying absolutely that God did not create. Even the atheists here are good about knowing that their belief is a belief and not trying to convert you.

The only verses you use to substantiate the two floods claim is this:

"2 peter 3:5 For they willingly are ignorant of , that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing #1 out of water and #2 thru the water. [two floods] 6 Where by the world that then was being overflowed with water perished."

Now, Peter is really dealing with the mystery of why the end times haven't come yet. 3:3-4: "They will make fun of you and ask: "He promised to come didn't he? Where is he? Our fathers have already died, but everything is still the same as it was since the creation of the world!"

So, Peter wants to provide an answer. My translation of 3:5-6 is very different than the one you give:
"They [the questioners] purposely ignore the fact that long ago God gave a command, and the heavens and the earth were created. The earth was formed out of water and by water, and it was also by the water of the flood that the old world was destroyed."

Here we have very standard theology: forming the world out of water is Genesis 1:2 and 1:9 and then a flood for Genesis 6-8. Not two floods, but the reference to water in the Genesis 1 creation story.

One the scientific side, the evidence falsifies even 1 world wide flood, much less 2.

2PETER 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Psalms 90:4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night



So you do not see that the earth ...aka Eden was a world of Gems in Ezekeil 28:12-18

Then in world flooded in Gen 1:2 then in Gen 7:17-24 plus 2 peter 3:5-6 talks about these two floods also ....


But what is your explanation of Gen 5:5-32 how Adam lived till he was adam 907 years old or
seth 912 yrs vs 8 or
Enos 908 yrs vs 11
Cainan 910 yrs vs 14
Mahalaleel 895 yrs vs 17
Jared 962 yrs vs 20
Enoch lived 365 yrs before God took him
Methuselah 960 yrs vs 27
Lamech lived 777 yrs
Noah lived 950 yrs old

Must have had different living conditions to be able to live that long

Dinansours where did they come from prove it with your thoughts...science what ever ... so you were there ....no

God was there he said it happened so it happened if your athesis who cares what you think

God says it I believe it!!!!!

Don't be rude and try to have a more open mind. You are in a Science forum after all.

and a CHRISTIAN FORUM

Good point an open mind isn't required here.

You really need to be more careful with wording

Let's keep it on topic folks.

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First, the people who disagree with a literal interpretation of Genesis aren't necessarily atheists; they include a significant proportion of Christians. Second, the Earth itself shows no evidence of recent creation or a worldwide flood. I assume you agree that God created the Earth as well as inspiring the Bible - so I'm sure we're all very interested in hearing your explanation of why the Earth itself is so different from your interpretation of the Genesis account. They can't both be right, which means that either God's got it wrong somewhere or you have.

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God can do any thing like make a rock to talk...

during Adams time there was no mountain then as it will be in the 1000yr reign verse can get rev 6:12,14 and rev 16:18-20 to make this possible


reason that they lived so long Ice was around earth and when it started flooding I am sure large pieces of Ice fell around the earth

earth divided in Gen 10:25

sorry not very organized going from top of head .......Have 100 page paper on Gen it just makes sense and runs thru out the bible