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10th May 2004, 10:45 AM
| | Agent 27  | | Join Date: 26th April 2004 Location: Milwaukee
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Reps: 27 (power: 0) | | | Heil Whitehorse and Sola Scripture; leaders of the Christian revolution back to the arcahic age. While I see in my presence both have managed their post counts even higher, I fail to see any reason or self-thought, but I see a small relationship in development. Cute.
For the sake of simplicity, I ask all; To what purpose is it to post scripture? You may post the entire Bible you want, it will not make anybody listen to it or think you any wiser. By now I've learn to skip quotes and go directly to what you say, which in some cases is purely foolish. If you use a book to judge another, that is foolish. This is similar to Darwin's book against the Bible. Also similar is the reasonable conclusion; the two books are not written to destory the other-they are nearly there to further the mind.
However, to anybody who calls other Christians non-christians; you are the Hitler and Stalin here. Either refrain from oppression, or realize differences in the world. Forever there will be different people of all cultures. Sad that some here think themselves such fine expertise on the bible, I remember even my own pastor dwelling that it takes a lifetime to learn a small segment of what there is to know. | 
10th May 2004, 12:13 PM
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Sola scriptura, thank you for your incredibly kind comment. I'm humbled. Your generous encouragement is very refreshing. As it is written:
Proverbs 11:25 11:25The generous man will be prosperous, And he who waters will himself be watered. NAS
Thank you for your kindness.
Blessings,
Whitehorse
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10th May 2004, 12:24 PM
|  | Senior Veteran 7  | | Join Date: 1st September 2003
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Reps: 3,179 (power: 15) | | For the sake of simplicity, I ask all; To what purpose is it to post scripture? You may post the entire Bible you want, it will not make anybody listen to it or think you any wiser.
THis has already been addressed. For the sake of the newcomers, I will repeat it: YOu don't stop using the truth because someone else doesn't want to accept it, or especially because they're trying to pry you away from the authority of truth. If they don't accept it, that's their problem. But we will affirm it still because it is the truth. By now I've learn to skip quotes and go directly to what you say, which in some cases is purely foolish. If you use a book to judge another, that is foolish. This is similar to Darwin's book against the Bible. Also similar is the reasonable conclusion; the two books are not written to destory the other-they are nearly there to further the mind.
As it is written:
I Corinthians 1:20-25 1:20Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?
1:21For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was well-pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.
1:22For indeed Jews ask for signs and Greeks search for wisdom;
1:23but we preach Christ crucified, to Jews a stumbling block and to Gentiles foolishness,
1:24but to those who are the called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.
1:25Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men. However, to anybody who calls other Christians non-christians; you are the Hitler and Stalin here.
I will allow this statement to speak for itself. Either refrain from oppression, or realize differences in the world. Forever there will be different people of all cultures.
And you feel you have a right, still, to tell us what to do? May I ask why you feel you have this right?
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10th May 2004, 12:28 PM
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Reps: 3,179 (power: 15) | | Originally Posted by Sola Scriptura So you believe in the devil and scripture!  how interesting.
Good point.
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10th May 2004, 02:21 PM
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10th May 2004, 03:39 PM
| | Celtic Witch 51  | | Join Date: 26th July 2002 Location: Realityville
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Reps: 530 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Sola Scriptura In every persons mouth there is a book forcing its way out, an opinion being thrust onto others, and an absolute point of view heralded; no exceptions. To state others wise is disingenuity and or self deception at best. 
Glad you've got us all figured out Sola.
Where would we be if we didn't have you to tell us what we think and believe?
ROFLMAO
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10th May 2004, 05:57 PM
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10th May 2004, 06:17 PM
|  | lotus on the mount
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Reps: 416 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Sola Scriptura In every persons mouth there is a book forcing its way out, an opinion being thrust onto others, and an absolute point of view heralded; no exceptions. To state others wise is disingenuity and or self deception at best. 
hmm I do believe you called Whitehorse brilliant. Want to try that last line again? Or am I misinterpreting?
and as far as a book "forcing it's way out"...some are able to stifle that enough to allow some courtesy to others and their opinions. | 
10th May 2004, 08:05 PM
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Reps: 3,179 (power: 15) | | Sola Scriptura is saying that everyone has an absolute they believe in, even if they say they're relativists. So, coming to a Chrisitan forum and expecting Christians to accept a pagan worldview is every bit the intolerance, only moreso: it comes onto Christian turf to tell Christians to be quiet. I've had this done to me in the last few posts, for example.
Sola isn't saying scripture is less valid because we have a worldview. He's saying you have one too, so it's impossible to cal toerh people intolerant when you're doing the exqact same thing you're condemning.
Except, you claim Christianity and you're finding kinship with pagans.
And when you think about it, there's no magic to gaining a strong knowledge or understanding of scripture. It just requires spending time in the word. Why not reserve an hour every night, and read the Bible cover to cover. You'll be glad you did. My guess is that you have probably some limited experience with Christianity, maybe from a relative or an acquaintance, and you see the truth in what you know, but maybe you don't have a comprehensive system of active Christian support. It's worth the effort to establish.
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10th May 2004, 09:11 PM
|  | lotus on the mount
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Reps: 416 (power: 0) | | I'm not asking for accpetance of pagan worldviews, or even the respect of the religion itself. I'm asking for respect of the people practicing it. That's all. I'm not condemning your views, as I said before, I respect your opinion in disagreeing with pagans, etc., I am merely frustrated by the lack of courtesy you present to them in substitute of judgement and condemnation. You can tell them Jesus is the way and the truth, but you can't force them to believe it - by either repeating it or posting verse after verse.
A great quote I found on a Bible help site " If you are respectful and fair in the way you treat someone, they will be open to what you have to say. If, on the other hand, you are unfair and disrespectful to those around you, they will not be interested in what you have to say, including the gospel."
Which illustrates my opinion even further.
My experience with Christianity is love, mercy and humility. Not complete condemnation of differences. As far as I've been taught, love is not just reserved for other Christians, but for all. (and I'll play your game here :wink: love thy neighbor as thyself --- brought up innumerable times throughout the bible - must I enter all the verses?  )
Not to mention, I sincerely wish you would stop calling the level of my faith into question (and in a roundabout way accusing me of not being a "real" Christian) just based on the fact that I do not believe exactly as you do.
I've said all I can say, it's getting redundant when there are no new arguements really being presented. So I would rather agree to disagree at this point. 
Obviously you are steadfast in your opinions as am I, congrats.
Take care
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