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Modern Catholic Saints?

I have a question for the RC's out there. Do any of you know of any modern (1900's and up) Catholic Saints, or really Holy living people? Of course I know of Mother Theresa, who could possibly be a Saint (in my eyes, allthough I am EO, I know she is a Saint to you all) and also I believe the three who saw the Virgin Mary at Fatima are considered Saints, I think...? But I am asking of other's. Anyone who is alive that is real Holy like we have in the EOC? Any modern Saints like we have in the EOC? If you know of any, some sort of story of their life would be helpful. Anyone do anything great or beyond comprehension?

Reason I ask is...when Pope John Paul II died, I picked up a magazine about him, and in it were some people who were declared Saints during his reign as Pope. To be honest, the magazine totally played these people down, because the reasons why they were Saints (as stated by the magazine) wasn't all that Saintly. Or at least not something that would consider a person a Saint in the EOC. One I remember was a Saint because (he/she don't remember) survived the holocaust. And another one was a queen that converted to the RCC. I mean there wasn't anything special that I read, or at least wasn't said by the magazine.

I don't mean to offend, I am just curious. When I read of the life or death of an EO Saint, I am left saying "wow". Even the modern ones.
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I have a question for the RC's out there. Do any of you know of any modern (1900's and up) Catholic Saints, or really Holy living people? Of course I know of Mother Theresa, who could possibly be a Saint (in my eyes, allthough I am EO, I know she is a Saint to you all) and also I believe the three who saw the Virgin Mary at Fatima are considered Saints, I think...? But I am asking of other's. Anyone who is alive that is real Holy like we have in the EOC? Any modern Saints like we have in the EOC? If you know of any, some sort of story of their life would be helpful. Anyone do anything great or beyond comprehension?

Reason I ask is...when Pope John Paul II died, I picked up a magazine about him, and in it were some people who were declared Saints during his reign as Pope. To be honest, the magazine totally played these people down, because the reasons why they were Saints (as stated by the magazine) wasn't all that Saintly. Or at least not something that would consider a person a Saint in the EOC. One I remember was a Saint because (he/she don't remember) survived the holocaust. And another one was a queen that converted to the RCC. I mean there wasn't anything special that I read, or at least wasn't said by the magazine.

I don't mean to offend, I am just curious. When I read of the life or death of an EO Saint, I am left saying "wow". Even the modern ones.
Well, technically saint means in the heaven at the right of the Father
So lots of people are saints, incredibly more that the few ones declared saint by the Church.

The Church, since the very beginning, chooses some of them and show them as exemples for us (by acclamation in the early time, by a rigorous process nowadays).

Also, because the Holy Spirit helps His Church, we can be sure that who is indicated as saint is truely at the right of the Father.

This do not means that the saints have always been sinless (think at St Moses the Black in the IV century or to St Augustine), but simply that now they are in the heaven.

Nor to be saint is tied to have been important or positive for the Church (like the three who saw the Virgin Mary at Fatima), nor they shall had some important event in the life: the santity is a personal fact, not a public one (well, perhaps the Church sometime chooses to declare saint a saint that is already more visible on the media)

Why JPII declared so many modern saint?
To teach us that we all are called to the sanctity: we too: sanctity is not only something of the ancient Church, but all our live shall have the aim to be Holy at His eyes and to arrive to be seated at the right of the Father, even in the XXI century
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Umm thanks...

But I was looking for some inparticular, or some that stand out. Someone like St. John of San Fransisco (EOC), who was known to be in two places at once, was beyond human comprehension in astheticism, and other miracles done through him by God, that are truly amazing.
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Umm thanks...

But I was looking for some inparticular, or some that stand out. Someone like St. John of San Fransisco (EOC), who was known to be in two places at once, was beyond human comprehension in astheticism, and other miracles done through him by God, that are truly amazing.
Well the point is that, for our way to understand the sanctity, St. John of San Fransisco shall be saint because he is in heaven with Christ, not because he was known to be in two places at once.

There are also many modern catholic saints with these particularies or similar ones (even scientifically proved ones), but in our understanding there is a danger in highlighting these particularities: in fact you too are actually called to sanctity, even if you not cannot be in two places at once.

The universal call to sanctity is something very important, and the sactity is not based on the presence of 'particularies'

That is the reason because I will not enter in a race about which modern saint has the bigger particularity.

On the contrary, I want to point out some 'normal' saint, like a ordinary mother of family (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gianna_Beretta_Molla).
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Well the point is that, for our way to understand the sanctity, St. John of San Fransisco shall be saint because he is in heaven with Christ, not because he was known to be in two places at once.

There are also many modern catholic saints with these particularies or similar ones (even scientifically proved ones), but in our understanding there is a danger in highlighting these particularities: in fact you too are actually called to sanctity, even if you not cannot be in two places at once.

The universal call to sanctity is something very important, and the sactity is not based on the presence of 'particularies'

That is the reason because I will not enter in a race about which modern saint has the bigger particularity.

On the contrary, I want to point out some 'normal' saint, like a ordinary mother of family (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gianna_Beretta_Molla).
Ok I don't think you get what I am asking.

Do you know of any modern day Saints, and stories about them? That is what I want. People are Canonized for a reason. I would like to hear stories of some. I know all in heaven are Saints, but not all are Canonized by the Church..
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Father Solanus Casey is not a Saint yet, but he is on his way to be one, he is Venerable at this point...here's a story about him:

http://www.americancatholic.org/Feat...lt.asp?id=1190

And then there is St. Therese, who wasn't around int the 1900's, but almost, she died in 1897...here's a story about her:

http://www.americancatholic.org/Feat...lt.asp?id=1155

St. Katharine Drexel is another:

http://www.americancatholic.org/Feat...lt.asp?id=1311

There's a few anyway... I may think of more...
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Thanks for that. Interesting people.
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