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19th July 2003, 04:10 AM
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If we don't say that, he can pretend to never have read that. And trust me, he'll do that.
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19th July 2003, 04:14 AM
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This study is a red herring. You specifically connected Prof. Hawking's ALS to his lack of piety. You even used the naming of the disease to make the connection. But now you find it difficult to show the data. I'm getting a bad smell here. |
19th July 2003, 04:31 AM
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He made a mistake guys. What's more, I think he knows it, but after that starting in-depth explanation, and having come all this way, he won't admit it. It was just, as you said, a hypothesis that was incorrect. We don't need to corner him and shove it in his face. I think that he knows its wrong too, but it's just too late to back down. I think I'm going to bed now. TTYL Jesus loves you! |
19th July 2003, 06:37 AM
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And, with all due respect, a good point was brought up, about the man in your church.
He was of the opinion that miracles and healings had ended with the early church. That God does not still heal people today. So, without hope, without faith, it is impossible to please God. I am not aware of him seeking after God in any way for a miracle or a healing, becasue he just did not believe that he could receive anything in that way from God. |
19th July 2003, 06:40 AM
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Reps: 12,682 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Melange_Thief It's not a THEORY. It's a HYPOTHESIS. This particular idea is NOT WELL-SUPPORTED ENOUGH by the EVIDENCE to convince all of the SCIENTISTS in the field of MEDICINE that it can be considered PROVISIONALLY TRUE. If you do not listen to this post, then you are officially a troll.
The word troll gets used so much on here that the only thing it means is someone who does not agree with your prespective or your viewpoint. If it even has that much meaning. |
19th July 2003, 10:56 AM
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Reps: 295,212,687,427,838,720 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Drotar OK, Wilikers!
He made a mistake guys. What's more, I think he knows it, but after that starting in-depth explanation, and having come all this way, he won't admit it. It was just, as you said, a hypothesis that was incorrect. We don't need to corner him and shove it in his face. I think that he knows its wrong too, but it's just too late to back down. I think I'm going to bed now. TTYL Jesus loves you!
If he did it once, it would be an honest mistake. But John has a history of willful ignorance and promoting his own allegedly Holy-Spirit-guided infalliblity, even in the face of overwhelming contrary evidence. That makes him a troll.
Check his previous posts and decide for yourself. |
19th July 2003, 11:04 AM
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Reps: 295,212,687,427,838,720 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by JohnR7 Well either he is the innocent victom of a ravaging disease, or he is not so innocent. Are you here to defend his innocence and purity?
Do you feel he has done nothing wrong and that he is in no way to blame for the condition that he finds himself in?
I'll answer that question as soon as you tell me what Job did that was so wrong.
I still have your friend at the church and scripture to tell us why bad things happen to good people.
Exodus 4:11 --And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man's mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?
Matthew 5:45 -- That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
And, as I said before, pretty much the entire book of Job.
But you still don't agree with Stephen Hawking, so all the facts and all the scripture in the world probably won't stop you from reducing God to your own private thug. So be it, I suppose.  |
19th July 2003, 11:51 AM
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Reps: 12,682 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Nathan Poe But you still don't agree with Stephen Hawking, so all the facts and all the scripture in the world probably won't stop you from reducing God to your own private thug. So be it, I suppose.
You just don't get it do you. Your only judging your own heart not mine. You are not even able to judge my heart. |
19th July 2003, 11:52 AM
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Reps: 12,682 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Nathan Poe That makes him a troll.
On this forum all that it means to call someone a troll, is that you do not agree with what they are saying. |
19th July 2003, 12:00 PM
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Reps: 6,626 (power: 21) | | Originally Posted by Volos Larry Dossey is a medical doctor and a researcher who has spent years looking into the effect of prayer on illness. One of his more famous long term studies involved having religious groups pray for specific seriously ill individuals. What he found was that the individual being prayed for recovered significantly faster, had fewer complications reported less side effects, and were less likely to die
Interesting - I don't think I've come across that one before. Is it as bad as all the other power of prayer studies? Got a link? | | |
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