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24th January 2007, 12:47 AM
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Reps: 99,627,675,221,065,968 (power: 99,627,675,221,075) | | Originally Posted by Annabel Lee  We've had legal abortion for over thirty years and the only change that's been made is the ease of the process.
Before that, of course, was illegal abortion.
I have to go by experience, myself as a pregnant teenager and my new grandson that is sleeping in the next room.
If I hadn't given my daughter support and unconditional love, if she had no one to turn to, I don't know what would have happened. I think she would have had the baby anyway, but with great emotional hardship. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
She had a friend that just had an abortion. I knew this girl since she was in the 4th grade. She had no one to help her. I didn't know till after the fact when I saw my daughter crying and she told me.
She spoke to her but she had already had her mind made up. She felt it was her only option.
That was it. Make an appointment, problem gone.
We have to give pregnant women more options, more reasons to bring their babies to term.
This is an upsetting subject, especially now.
I can definitley agree with you here! I wouldn't say that these marches are bad things, they can definitley serve to at least get people talking, which can be very fruitful, but, I agree that ultimately, as with every thing else, the real solution lies in love and having it embrace you.
I also agree with what you said about giving women more options. This world definitley does not make it easy for mothers, whether it be through our judgement of unwed pregnant women, to our lack of social programs to help single mothers provide, our lack of programs to help struggling families with two parents to provide etc It's because of this that I highly recommend Feminists for Life as a pro-life movement / organization to support. Their approach is to ask those tough, root questions like, what is driving these women to have abortions? Why is that the more appealing option for a great many of our mothers out there and what can we do about it, because it is killing our children. www.womendeservebetter.com
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24th January 2007, 01:54 AM
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Reps: 25,179 (power: 39) | | Originally Posted by Annabel Lee I wonder how much these protests really accomplish? They're like a peace march, but will we ever have peace?
It's an opportunity to get together and shout. But hey guess what, no one is listening.
I'm convinced the only way to change anything is one child at a time, and one pregnant young woman at a time.
Hopefully the march got the attention of at least one pregnant woman who was thinking about abortion and caused her to reach out for help. Maybe they saw the signs of those in the front of the march that said "my abortion hurt me" or there were more, like for fathers who were supportive of aborting their own baby. (I just can't remember what they said). But maybe one or more women saw this and went and got help, it made them think. In that case it does help one child and one woman out at a time...hopefully even more..plus it is a time for hundreds of thousands of people to get together to pray for a common cause.
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24th January 2007, 04:33 AM
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Reps: 4,892,085 (power: 4,900) | | | Silence is acceptence, simple as that. It just seems a bit off that anyone would actually think just because one anti-abortion rally isn't going end the problem tomorrow it must be a waste of time. If you're trying to get in shape going to the gym tomorrow isn't going to accomplish all of your goals. It's a process that takes time. Sadly the fact is many of the young women out there that are chosing abortion aren't doing it because they don't have options. The demographic of people that should be chosing abortion are less likely than their socio-economic betters. The truth is there is no real solution that doesn't include legal protections for the unborn as the end of convinence abortions. |
24th January 2007, 08:00 AM
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Reps: 330,827,146 (power: 330,838) | | Originally Posted by Annabel Lee I wonder how much these protests really accomplish? They're like a peace march, but will we ever have peace?
It's an opportunity to get together and shout. But hey guess what, no one is listening.
I'm convinced the only way to change anything is one child at a time, and one pregnant young woman at a time.
I think the accomplish more than you realize.
1.) Change the hearts of many who are on the fence and don't know the facts. They hear and see the facts.
2.) Involved hundreds of thousands of the youth who are being raised with the facts and who will grow and raise more with the facts.
3.) Brings out and identifies politicians who are Pro Life and those Pro death for thee infants and let's you begin researching them in more detail.
4.) DC cannot deny the magnitude of the event in pure numbers. The workers looking out there windows up nd down the streets over the sea of people with a message. They have to then ask "What is the message?" "And what is my view point?" Who many discussions on the subject arose in those office nd homes across america just from seeing the event and parents having to explain it to their kids and kids discussing it to their friends in school te next day and so forth? I beleive it awakens many minds.
5.) Shows that since we are not aborting our children on our side, that we have a generation that will take control with our ideals. The Pro Death for Infants side, well, killing off their generation will killoff their message in a few more years. Look at the numbers: Planned Parenthood themselves are closing clinics at an average rate of 1 per month across the nation. They have to fly doctor in to perform the cts of genicide because more and more doctors don't want anything to do with losing their soul for a few dollars.
Those are a few points. I can go on for hours what I see happening from the posative side of the movement and speaking out on DC. Originally Posted by vrunca .... Maybe they saw the signs of those in the front of the march that said "my abortion hurt me" or there were more, like for fathers who were supportive of aborting their own baby. (I just can't remember what they said). ....
"I Regret My Abortion" was worn by women who had one and are now speaking out.
"I Regret My Lost Fatherhood" was worn by men who supported their children's mothers to get an abortion.
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24th January 2007, 08:22 AM
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Reps: 6,663,728,143,532,565 (power: 6,663,728,143,554) | | Originally Posted by Annabel Lee I wonder how much these protests really accomplish? They're like a peace march, but will we ever have peace?
It's an opportunity to get together and shout. But hey guess what, no one is listening.
I'm convinced the only way to change anything is one child at a time, and one pregnant young woman at a time.
These marches really make a big difference. In fact, these marches are probably the most effective tool that the pro-life movement has right now; a sentiment that has been confirmed by US senators. It really does turn the heads of politicians and law makers.
It is difficult to ignore the pro-life movement when they look out their windows and see a crowd of over 100,000 people in the cold and mud.
-Davide
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24th January 2007, 08:27 AM
| | | Originally Posted by Annabel Lee We've had legal abortion for over thirty years and the only change that's been made is the ease of the process.
Before that, of course, was illegal abortion.
I have to go by experience, myself as a pregnant teenager and my new grandson that is sleeping in the next room.
If I hadn't given my daughter support and unconditional love, if she had no one to turn to, I don't know what would have happened. I think she would have had the baby anyway, but with great emotional hardship. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
She had a friend that just had an abortion. I knew this girl since she was in the 4th grade. She had no one to help her. I didn't know till after the fact when I saw my daughter crying and she told me.
She spoke to her but she had already had her mind made up. She felt it was her only option.
That was it. Make an appointment, problem gone.
We have to give pregnant women more options, more reasons to bring their babies to term.
This is an upsetting subject, especially now.
I know this is speculation, but had abortion been illegal, do you think her friend would have still gotten one? Do you think she would have looked into other options like adoption?
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24th January 2007, 08:28 AM
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Reps: 6,663,728,143,532,565 (power: 6,663,728,143,554) | | Originally Posted by Annabel Lee We've had legal abortion for over thirty years and the only change that's been made is the ease of the process.
But we've never had the support that we have today.
During the march, I walked by some police officers who were talking with each other, and one of them said that this was the largest crowd he has ever seen at these marches.
When the numbers come in, I have no doubt that they will be greater than previous years. The culture of life is finally coming into the spotlight.
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Reps: 330,827,146 (power: 330,838) | | Originally Posted by Rising_Suns ...a crowd of over 100,000 people in the cold and mud.
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100,000???
I am telling you there was over 500,000 there. I was at the front of the march and after marching for 30 minutes to the Supreme court building, I went back and stood at the Senate building steps and watched. And for over an hour and a half, it was a constant flood coming up the hill from side walk to side walk, 50 persons wide.
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24th January 2007, 09:02 AM
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I am telling you there was over 500,000 there. I was at the front of the march and after marching for 30 minutes to the Supreme court building, I went back and stood at the Senate building steps and watched. And for over an hour and a half, it was a constant flood coming up the hill from side walk to side walk, 50 persons wide.
I would not be surprised. All evidence suggests that the march this year was significantly larger than previous marches. Hopefully the estimates from areal imaging will confirm this.
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Reps: 275,425,270,701,714,368 (power: 275,425,270,701,753) | | Originally Posted by vrunca As always it was amazing seeing all of the people in support of life. It wasn't cold though, I had just a t-shirt on until we started walking, then I put a sweatshirt on, but mostly so I wouldn't have to hold it...it was like 40 degrees out though!!! The other times I went it was freezing and blizzardy...this was like springtime! In fact over by the Air and space museum there were daffodils and crocuses blossoming!! I could't believe it!
are you kidding me? i freaked out when i saw people in tshirts and shorts. i had on two long sleeve shirts, a hoodie, and my big ol columbia winter coat, ear muffs, flannel pajama pants, cargo jean pants, wool socks, sneakers, and gloves. and i was still a little cold. Originally Posted by stivvy I had a great time and have to take the tim eto post the pics I have too. How about he youth turnout! Wow! They outnumbered the older adults! Their dancing and singing at the supreme court building was awesome to experience. The court was fortified by about 2 dozen DC police (who did an awesome job keeping things organized. thanks guys and gals).
and the knights of columbus! "get on the sidewalk... out of the street, on the sidewalk...." Originally Posted by Number 81 Some people were holding a sign saying:
Pro-child
Pro-choice
Pro-pig
Pro-bacon
I don't know what they meant, but they might have been PETA members calling us hypocrites... It was a poorly done sign...
how about the truck with the paint on it? "REPENT!!!"
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davide, in one of your pictures, i was probably fifteen feet away from you. great pictures though.  | | |
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