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7th July 2003, 11:46 AM
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Praise God 
There has been a big bust up in the Anglican church in the past few weeks when an openly gay bishop was appointed in the diocese of Oxfordshire. It was threatening to split the church, but yesterday he stepped down to preserve unity. Evangelicals have been praying for this, but we did not expect it to happen, at least without more serious confrontation, so praise God for brinning this about.
I am sure he is a good and Godly man, but I belive the Bible is clearly against homosexual relationships, without being a 'fundamentalist', and I believe the leaders of the Anglican church (or any church!) should uphold this. At the 1998 Lambeth conference this position was clearly affirmed by the leaders of the Anglican church worldwide and this view of scripture is clear in the founding 39 articles of the Church of England, particularly 6 and 20.
It is a shame that evangelicals seem to be defined by this issue. A stand needed to be made, but there are more important things, especially bishops, or any leaders, that do not belive in a literal resurection. This is a gospel issue, made blantantly clear throughout the NT and is directly stated in article 4. If people do not agree with this, fine, but they should not be curch leaders.  |
7th July 2003, 12:07 PM
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Reps: 9 (power: 0) | | | Amen Yahweh Nissi, I was so pleased to hear the news as well.
btw, are you in Oxford?
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7th July 2003, 06:03 PM
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It’s a pity the Anglicans couldn’t get over their bigotry and actually attempt to judge the man on his merits instead of their prejudice. |
7th July 2003, 07:36 PM
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Reps: 2,229 (power: 16) | | | It seems this fellow in England is putting the church first, while the guy in New Hapmshire is putting himself and his agenda first.
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7th July 2003, 08:47 PM
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Reps: 277,386,301,628,032,352 (power: 277,386,301,628,051) | | Originally Posted by Volos I feel rather sorry for him.
It’s a pity the Anglicans couldn’t get over their bigotry and actually attempt to judge the man on his merits instead of their prejudice.
What if a pastor was having sex with prostitutes? Would you want him to lead the congregation?
The Christian way, is those who work for it deserve it. Like a football team, the best players will start. Because usually the best players, worked harder, and want to win more. Being a pastor is a tough job, alot of responsiblity goes into it. So I would want the most qualified person for the job. That includes the ones that resist temtation the best.
I am glad that the congregation is standing up for what is right.I would leave that church in a heart beat! I would probably leave that church, if they even tought about making that decission.
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8th July 2003, 03:18 AM
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Reps: 3,678 (power: 16) | | | I don't think there is anything to chear about in this sorry saga. Evangelicals have been forced to take a stand and the most vocal and homophobic have been to the fore grabbing the media headlines.
The message that gays have no place in the church has been broadcast. Remember our saviour dined with tax collectors and sinners. The issue should have been about suitablility for church leadership not does God love gays nor whether there is a place for gays in church ministry.
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8th July 2003, 03:26 AM
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Man I despise fundamentalists!
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8th July 2003, 03:30 AM
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Reps: 277,386,301,628,032,352 (power: 277,386,301,628,051) | | Originally Posted by kiwimac This is simply unacceptable! THis man is called of God and because some so-called Christians can not see beyond their own prejudices and bigotries he has to stand down.
Man I despise fundamentalists!
Kiwimac
How do you know they were called by God?
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You do not have because you do not ask.
You ask and do not recieve, because you ask with wrong motives, so that you may spend it on your pleasures. James 4:2+3
If you do well, will not your countenance be lifted up? And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door; and its desire is for you, but you must master it. Gen 4:7
Submit therefore to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. James 4:7+8 |
8th July 2003, 03:34 AM
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Please show your fellow christians some respect.
*mod hat off*
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8th July 2003, 03:35 AM
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Reps: 277,386,301,628,032,352 (power: 277,386,301,628,051) | | Originally Posted by The Midge I don't think there is anything to chear about in this sorry saga. Evangelicals have been forced to take a stand and the most vocal and homophobic have been to the fore grabbing the media headlines.
The message that gays have no place in the church has been broadcast. Remember our saviour dined with tax collectors and sinners. The issue should have been about suitablility for church leadership not does God love gays nor whether there is a place for gays in church ministry.
People who who live the gay lifestyle are most certianly welcomed in churchs. But to be a leader, I believe they need to give up that lifestyle.
That reminds me, I have a gay coworker, I haven't bashed him in a few days. Let me get my kkk uniform on  and go nail some burning crosses on his lawn! 
JUST KIDDING! 
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You do not have because you do not ask.
You ask and do not recieve, because you ask with wrong motives, so that you may spend it on your pleasures. James 4:2+3
If you do well, will not your countenance be lifted up? And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door; and its desire is for you, but you must master it. Gen 4:7
Submit therefore to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. James 4:7+8 | | |
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