I AM Spiritually equal to God.

OK thats more like it!

But what you said before sounded like you were saying something different . This is much better

It does if you are born-again becuse you are one Spirit with God. God just keeps dishing His Spirit out and we keep taking it.



I'm saying that you were recreated. Adam was created, then was destroyed by spiritual death when he sinned. We are recreated in Christ (born-again & filled with the Holy Ghost) to at least the Spiritual stature that Adam had before he sinned. The Spirit of God (the entire trinity) was part of Adam's Spiritual nature. Remember, God said "...Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:let us make man in our image..." (Genesis 1:26). "Us" was the trinity, operating as One to create God's first created child. The creation of Adam was a Heavenly family affair. Adam was of Gods Spiritual nature in every way. Adam was God's off spring. Notice that they (the trinity) made Adam in their (plural) image. I expect that the Father, Son and Holy Ghost were having a real good time wne they made Adam.

As far as eternally pre existing goes;

I hear a WOF teach preach a little on this, but he was rushed. He said something to the effect that when we go to Heaven it will be familiar to us because we came from there, which you read my previous stament, I can see the possibility. I didn't catch his reference scriptures. I have a scripture in mind but can't find it at the moment. The closest I can come for now is:

Acts 15:18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.



The Nicene Creed is the most widespread or ecumenical Christian statement of faith. Since its original formulation it continues to be used in the Roman Catholic, Syrian Orthodox (Jacobite) Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Assyrian, Anglican, Lutheran, and most other Protestant Churches.

I'm not big on Ecumenicalism as I understand it, nor do I use any other reference other that the Bible as my yardstick for Truth. I'm not putting down your beliefs, or anyone else's methods of study, but I simply get a witness from the written word, the Spirit and hopefully from two or three people. I like to see confirmation in resource materiels, but the Word is the bottom line. The KJ Bible is my base document and Godly results are my goal.


All I can do is show you where I get this from and let you meditate on it.

First of all, the Father is the greatest.




Jesus proceeds from the Father.




The Father also sent the Holy Ghost.



I don't know if I answered your question or not. I would be happy to try to answer any further questions you might have, if I can.

I was really impressed that were in 100% agreement with me on my previous statement concerning the birth of Jesus.

Thank you Godwon for answering my quesitons, I am glad you understood I was seeking clarification and took the time to answer in the same respectful and kind spirit I intended when the questions were asked. I appreciate it.

I wish I could ask more quesitons, but that seems impossible right now.


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I'm saying that you were recreated. Adam was created, then was destroyed by spiritual death when he sinned. We are recreated in Christ (born-again & filled with the Holy Ghost) to at least the Spiritual stature that Adam had before he sinned. The Spirit of God (the entire trinity) was part of Adam's Spiritual nature. Remember, God said "...Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:let us make man in our image..." (Genesis 1:26). "Us" was the trinity, operating as One to create God's first created child. The creation of Adam was a Heavenly family affair. Adam was of Gods Spiritual nature in every way. Adam was God's off spring. Notice that they (the trinity) made Adam in their (plural) image. I expect that the Father, Son and Holy Ghost were having a real good time wne they made Adam.



We have a spirit-man which contains our soul.



This is kind of apples and oranges. You are a spirit which has a soul and together they comprise you spirit-man. Kenyon is talking about you physical body. I'm talking about you spiritual body, you spirit-man.

Now if you have trouble thinking of our soul as being spiritual in nature, then consider the following:

In 3 John 1:2, soul is translated from the Greek word psuche (psoo-khay') and means the breath of life that is the vital force which animates the body and always shows itself in breathing. The soul is the invisible, living and tangible spiritual organism which is designed for everlasting life and defines us morally.

If our soul were physical in nature, instead of spiritual in nature, we would be able to detect it with our five senses, like see it, which you know we can't. It is part of or spirit-man.



Exactly!

As with Kenyon, Kenneth Hagin explained it this way, but also subsequently said, in his second book "Demons" , that neither he nor the Church has ever done a very good job of defining the spirit, soul and body. Like Kenyon, Hagin was referring to the physical body. I do not claim that our physical body is one with God, although there are those who have given substantial reason to believe it will be someday. There is scriptural support for this.
Job 19:26 And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:
Hagin never took it any further but recognized that our physical and spiritual condition had been inadequately defined.

WOF Teachers, as well as other Teachers, ten to only describe these things as far as the have to to serve the point they are making at the time. I see noting really wrong with this as long as you allow God to give you a better and better picture of the spirit, soul, and body. This is all I have done here.

What about Bob?