still they beat around the bush but never answer the OP, they would even insult islam and the prophet but not answer.
Bump
Any more for any more.
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yaqovzadeek
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Why does it say the male is not like the female? I mean we know this, this is not revelatory in distinguishing sexes at birth.
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If you look at the verse closely, I believe it's attempting to convey a sense of astonishment. Having given birth, she exclaims, "Hey. This is a girl child."
This would've been significant in pagan Arabia. The life expectancy of baby girls was considerably lower than that of baby boys. Many people, upon seeing that the child was a girl, would take the child out and bury it in the desert, and try again for a son.
still they beat around the bush but never answer the OP, they would even insult islam and the prophet but not answer.
Bump
Any more for any more.
peace
yaqovzadeek
aka james the Just
Beat around the bush?
If ignoring everyone else's responces on here makes you sleep at night believing that your beliefs are right... sure.
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Many non muslims out of ignorance of not having read the quran,claim that Mohamed wrote the Quran. many claim that Mohamesd (Pbuh) outrightly copied wholesale from the Old testament. Ask yourself, why, why would Mohamed (pbuh) copy from the OT if he was creating another religion, if he was writing the quran?What would it benefit him?
Well, we could also ask the same thing about the Apostle Paul.
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Allah, you did not practice what you preached. You said, Muhammad is dearest to me, he is best of creation, he is the top ranked prophet, his mother tongue Arabic will be the language of heaven, he can intercede on judgment day, Iman(faith) is not complete unless he is accepted as your rasul (messenger).
You, and him are mentioned together in quran hundreds of times like you two are equal partners. You and all your angels even sent salam to him. You wrote in the Quran obey me and my apostle, love me and my apostle, follow me and my apostle, listen to me and me my apostle. You left no doubt that he was way higher than all other prophets. He led the prayer of all the prophets in the Miraj night at Jerusalem. Only he could ascend to the 7th heaven to meet you whereas even Gabriel, the messenger, had to stay back at the 6th heaven. However I personally feel that it was more of lip service than anything else. Actions speak louder than words. You did not deliver what you promised. Let us examine what you really did for your beloved Muhammad in comparison to what you did for other prophets.
* You gave Noah a life of 950 years, you gave Muhammad only 63 years. What a shame. Even Ibn Afak, an infidel Jew lived to be 120 and died only when Muhammad had him assassinated.
* You made Adam 60 cunits (30 meters) tall but you made Muhammad less than six feet. Even many infidel 7 feet tall basket ball players dwarf the greatest prophet.
* You made Joseph so handsome that even his boss's wife chased him around . As far as Muhammad is concerned, he was the one doing the chasing. Many women even shunned him. As a matter of fact every time he came to Juavaria, his gorgeous captured-women-turned-wife for a quickie, she would stand up and start praying namaz to avoid him (she was known to pray for hours until horny Muhammad had to go next door to another wife to fulfill his desire). Once he proposed to have sex with a noble woman, she refused and prayed for protection from Allah, how insulting for an apostle. Many of his marriages could not be consummated (perhaps because the young girls given in marriage by fathers probably started crying when they saw the naked old man).
* You gave Jesus the power to make dead people live, give back parents to orphans and husbands to widows. The only power you gave Muhammad was to make living people dead, take away parents from children and husbands from wives which any common criminal can do.
* You gave Solomon power to control Jinns who used to bring him treasures from the bottom of the sea. Muhammad had to rely on himself and his cronies to acquire wealth by looting and pillaging.
* You saved Abraham's son Ishmael when he was trying to behead him after a bad dream by replacing his son with a ram. You did no such saving when Muhammad's sons were dying in infancy.
* When Jonah prayed from inside the stomach of a large fish you listened and saved his life. When Muhammad prayed from the lap of Ayesha you did not listen, and let him die.
* You gave long lives to children of David and Jacob. Muhammad had to bury six of his seven children who died young . The 7th (Fatima) died 2 months after his death before reaching 20.
* You yourself came down to earth to meet Moses. Muhammad was escorted by Gabriel on the back of a winged horse and travel billions of miles to see you (I bet he had a very sore behind after the trip). Could you not come down yourself for your best man?
* You gave real miracles to all prophets. Abraham could convert burning fire into a garden. Moses could convert his staff into a snake, walk through an ocean, give life to a dead cow. Jesus could cure the sick, give eyes to the blind, give life to the dead, make a clay bird fly, talk right after birth. Noah could build an arc to carry millions of animals. Solomon could communicate with jinns and animals. All of them had something to show except Muhammad. When Muhammad asked for a miracle you gave a run around and said Quran is your miracle. Some miracle, a hodgepodge of silly fables and a collection of misinformation. A book which says Sun sets in muddy spring, stars are missiles to attack jinns, Moon is a lamp, Sun goes around the Earth, mountains are pegs and sky is in seven solid layers. Even kids are laughing at his miracle today.
* You gave Solomon mastery of all the tongues of animal kingdom. Muhammad could not even read or write his own mother tongue.
* You gave many prophets the ability to cure (Ayub could cure himself by prayer). When sick people came to them they gave them health. When sick people came to Muhammad , he gave them camel urine (no wonder some of them went berserk after drinking fresh camel urine and committed murders). He could not cure even his own sons whom he desired and loved dearly, all three died in infancy.
* You sent ababil birds to defeat an army on elephants to protect your own house Kaaba. No ababils showed up when Muhammad's house in Madina was attacked three times. He almost got killed once.
* Solomon was helped by superhuman invisible help in his wars. No such help for Muhammad. Yes he won many wars but it was the lure of booty, captured women and the perpetually virgin houris in heaven for martyrs which made his soldiers fight and win, not your ababil birds or the thousands of angels which were promised but never showed up.
* You were sending Gabriel for every little information, even to show how to wipe rears, why didn't you send him to warn Muhammad against eating the poisoned meat which pained him so much and eventually took his life?
In view of the above facts, can you still say you were fair to Muhammad?
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Last edited by Bushmaster; 7th January 2007 at 12:57 AM.
Thanks for this great post . for those who say that Mohammad claimed himself as " God/king " I am glad to give them this great "Hadith/saying " by prophet Mohammad :
" Do not praise me as christians have done with Jesus , I am just a slave of God and a messenger who sent by Him , so just say " Mohammad is just a slave and a messenger of God " .
Thus , we can see clearly that Mohammad has no benefit from claiming that he is a prophet . he did not even accept personal glory for himself , this because he is indeed a prophet from God .
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Check it out, Holly means any of numerous trees or shrubs of the genus and branches of these plants, traditionally used for Christmas decoration. It is Holy.
Second what is the citation to that hadith?
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