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Old 28th June 2003, 07:10 PM
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Occam's Razor

Occam's razor states that the simplist explaination to a problem is probably the correct one. Isn't the theory that God created everything over just a few days much simpler than the theory that the stars, planets, and cell originated by themselves, followed by cells connecting together over several million years to form extremely complex organisms?
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Originally Posted by Northern Christian
Occam's razor states that the simplist explaination to a problem is probably the correct one. Isn't the theory that God created everything over just a few days much simpler than the theory that the stars, planets, and cell originated by themselves, followed by cells connecting together over several million years to form extremely complex organisms?
Here's a different statement of Occam's Razor: "One should not increase, beyond what is necessary, the number of entities required to explain anything." - http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/OCCAMRAZ.html

Based on that definition, it seems simpler to take God out the equation and go with purely natural processes.
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Originally Posted by Pete Harcoff
Here's a different statement of Occam's Razor: "One should not increase, beyond what is necessary, the number of entities required to explain anything." - http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/OCCAMRAZ.html

Based on that definition, it seems simpler to take God out the equation and go with purely natural processes.
Evolutionists say that "this must have happened" and "that must have happened at that time," and so on, while Creationists can explain the origins of everything with Genesis 1. Let's keep God in the picture, and throw out the "entities" such as "the world had to be this tempurature at this time," "comets had to hit the earth at this time," "the first cells had to originate by themselves," and so on.
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Even if you have God in the picture, you still have the temperatures, the comes, the natural laws, changes in organisms...

So God only does add another "entity" - without providing additional informations.
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Originally Posted by Northern Christian
Evolutionists say that "this must have happened" and "that must have happened at that time," and so on, while Creationists can explain the origins of everything with Genesis 1. Let's keep God in the picture, and throw out the "entities" such as "the world had to be this tempurature at this time," "comets had to hit the earth at this time," "the first cells had to originate by themselves," and so on.
Supposedly I find an origin story that is simpler than Genesis. Does that mean it is correct and Genesis is false?
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The universe poofed into existence last thursday - you can´t get much simpler than that.
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Supposedly I find an origin story that is simpler than Genesis.
Can you please explain how the big bang theory and the theory of evolution are simpler than Creationism?
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Originally Posted by Freodin
The universe poofed into existence last thursday - you can´t get much simpler than that.
That's a strawman that Creationists do not claim.
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Originally Posted by Northern Christian
Can you please explain how the big bang theory and the theory of evolution are simpler than Creationism?
Can you please explain to me how the natural processes that exist in the universe are more complex than God? Because really, this is what you seem to be advocating.
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Originally Posted by Northern Christian
That's a strawman that Creationists do not claim.
But it's a simpler explanation of origins. Therefore, according to your 'logic', it must be correct.
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